Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:15 pm  

SRC wrote:

Pepe wrote:

Why confused ??
We won the league and the Grand Final. Hence, in the pre-SL era, we'd be looking forward to a year in the higher league in 2010.

In fact, that's how every other sport works - except ours.

I think he was refering to - in the pre SL era you would be playing in SL now - if it was pre SL there wouldnt be a SL for you to play in.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:17 pm  

a.n Other wrote:

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I think he was refering to - in the pre SL era you would be playing in SL now - if it was pre SL there wouldnt be a SL for you to play in.[/quote]
I see

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:36 pm  

SRC wrote:

I have ALWAYS said that Widnes are front runners. However, there's 18 months to go yet and a lot can happen. I'm interested to hear how Widnes know what the definite SL critera is for 2012, as the RFL haven't told any of the other clubs.

As I have said before, there will be AT LEAST 1 club going into SL from the Championship. OK, Widnes are favourites for 1 spot, but if another team can prove they would be a better option than another SL club, then who knows?

I remember most NL1 fans writing off Barrow's survival in the Championship last season and look what happened.

And yet if Widnes fans point out the fact that Widnes are the front runnersfor a 2012 licence, you go into a fit of righteous indignation.

What areas, other than player performance, do Barrow beat Widnes on?

SRC wrote:

Why confused ??
We won the league and the Grand Final. Hence, in the pre-SL era, we'd be looking forward to a year in the higher league in 2010.

In fact, that's how every other sport works - except ours.

You wrote this:

SRC wrote:

If we were playing in the pre-Super League era, we'd be looking forward to a season in Super League.

Think about it…

Did you mean pre-licence era?

Either way, due to the state of your ground, it may not have reached minimum standards for entry into SL. Barrow has recently been warned about this situation by the RFL. Wakefield only got in on a promise to improve it, which they didn’t fulfill. Dewsbury were knocked back. So Barrow may not have been looking forward to SL, as you suggest.

If everything depended on team strength in a P&R era, then other clubs would put everything into that too, and Barrow may not have won the Grand Final.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:43 pm  

SRC wrote:

I have ALWAYS said that Widnes are front runners. However, there's 18 months to go yet and a lot can happen. I'm interested to hear how Widnes know what the definite SL critera is for 2012, as the RFL haven't told any of the other clubs.

Steve O'Connor has attended weekly meetings with the RFL to establish exactly what they require from us in order to meet their criteria. In saying what he's said, he is obviously confident that the club is meeting their expectations. If after the first 12 months of the next round of preparations any club does not know what is expected of them, then as a fan I'd be rather worried.

As I have said before, there will be AT LEAST 1 club going into SL from the Championship. OK, Widnes are favourites for 1 spot, but if another team can prove they would be a better option than another SL club, then who knows?

I remember most NL1 fans writing off Barrow's survival in the Championship last season and look what happened.

There's quite a difference between being surprise winners of the Championship and actually getting a franchise. As much as you try and convince us, you're not going to succeed.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:03 pm  

SRC wrote:

Pepe wrote:

Why confused ??
We won the league and the Grand Final. Hence, in the pre-SL era, we'd be looking forward to a year in the higher league in 2010.
In fact, that's how every other sport works - except ours.

Quite possibly not , the pre licence stadium criteria included 2,000 seats , along with better floodlighting than you currently have , all irrelivant , we are not operating in a P and R system , and the current driteria is much higher than was 2 years ago

barrow are doing well , continue that progress and you will have a very good chance in 2015 , IF the RFL continue to operate on a 3 year cycle , which they have not stated they will , that is just an assumption we are all making , because the other option just scares us to death

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:00 pm  

Pepe wrote:

What areas, other than player performance, do Barrow beat Widnes on?

3 areas actually ..
Location,
Location,
Location

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:07 pm  

SRC wrote:

:ASK: 3 areas actually ..
Location,
Location,
Location

SRC wrote:

No-one at Barrow has ever complained about this, we're just trying to get what we can of our house in order to give us the best chance of winning the RFL's license charade for 2012.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:08 pm  

SRC wrote:

:ASK: 3 areas actually ..
Location,
Location,
Location

SRC give up mate, Barrow are an unfashionable club and are currently behind Widnes/Halifax/Leigh in terms of a franchise. I await Angela Powers review when she buys a rat burger and crouches and pee's on herself in the toilets. The baby changing facilities in the back of a caravan? and thats without mentioning the little scrotes who around the ground swearing there heads off without a parent in sight. The only reason the likes of Catic and Rooney are at Barrow is for the cash.


Oh yeah and you have Mcchoke.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:37 pm  

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

SRC give up mate, Barrow are an unfashionable club and are currently behind Widnes/Halifax/Leigh in terms of a franchise.

Behind Widnes - yes. Behind Fax and Leigh ????? The only area they are ahead on is their rented stadia. Crowds - no, Silverware - no, Location - no, Assets - no. As for being 'unfashionable', the phrase is a throw-away line and means very little. Are you saying Widnes are height of fashion ?!?!?!??!!

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

The only reason the likes of Catic and Rooney are at Barrow is for the cash.

Of course it is. They're professionals. Why do you think Webster, Love etc etc are at Widnes ????

-VIKINGMAN- wrote:

Oh yeah and you have Mcchoke.

Funny how it's mainly the Widnes fans that bag him. He led Haven to the best spell in their history and kept Gateshead up against all the odds. Their fans have a different view.

Re: Widnes before Barrow? : Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:41 pm  

Facilities are the key thing, crowds between Barrow and Leigh/Fax are similar. Uncle Des is outspoken and they dont like that do the RFL. Club websites and communiction is also more professional at each club.