FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Smith - should he stay or should he go?
UllFC 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16914No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 27 200420 years34th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Apr 24 20:4226th Apr 24 17:31LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:09 pm  
Can't quite decide if it's the players getting up to their old tricks or downing tools to oust a coach...or if our 'most experienced coach in SL' has simply had his day.

But that was worse than anything Hodgson and Radford served up and serious questions need to be asked.

Thoughts?
Hasbag 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4481No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 26 201212 years28th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Apr 24 21:5126th Apr 24 17:01LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Hull

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:16 pm  
I'd say it's a mix of both Smith and the players. Some of those tackle attempts today were just embarrassing even part time players. Perhaps Smith isn't coaching them proper defensive techniques and structures, but then it also looks like the players play with no personal or professional pride.
Smith is responsible for signing 2 hookers to play in the halves and seemingly not willing to change things when it's so obvious we are botj clueless in attack and have 0 running threat from 9. We've looked to have no attacking structure at all so far and he does nothing to change it, other than dropping/benching our only threatening player with ball in hand, Hoy.
Personally I wouldn't be fussed if he was gone in the morning. Let Grix take charge until the end of the season. It honestly can't get worse. Keep an ear to the ground for the rest of the year with regards to replacements, but also let Grix know the remainder of the year is also his interview.
Last edited by Hasbag on Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
RankPostsTeam
International Star6992No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 04 201410 years8th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Apr 24 00:3027th Apr 24 00:30LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:19 pm  
UllFC wrote:
Can't quite decide if it's the players getting up to their old tricks or downing tools to oust a coach...or if our 'most experienced coach in SL' has simply had his day.

But that was worse than anything Hodgson and Radford served up and serious questions need to be asked.

Thoughts?



been saying for weeks Smith is not up to the job based on what we have seen on the field.
Unable to cut out the indiscipline ,get them supremely fit,or create a structure either in attack or defence my mind was made up several weeks ago.
Cant see anything else but Pearson sacking him after this game.
If he doesnt then he has given up
Steve0 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1856No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 03 200321 years35th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Apr 24 06:4227th Apr 24 07:35LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:22 pm  
If we're going to get rid, do it now before more embarrassment on Good Friday
hatty 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3719
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 14 200321 years278th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Apr 24 05:2826th Apr 24 19:52LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wigan...where else!!
Signature
1998,2010,2013,2016,2018 & 2023.....I was there
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:29 pm  
I’m not even a Hull fan but something has to change at Hull after that performance. You’re crying out for a complete overhaul just as we were at Wigan before we brought Maguire in. One or two have mentioned Shaun Wane and I would say that if you could tempt him then go all out to get him.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator7853
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 200420 years3rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Apr 24 01:4227th Apr 24 01:42LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Never never land away with the fairies
Signature
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
Moderator

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:31 pm  
Don’t think it’s both, think it’s down to Smith & Gene not being up to the job, Pearson as owner also shoulders some of the blame for allowing the malaise to continue and promoting people in to positions that are beyond them.

We’ve had a big turnover of players but giving Houghton another year for me was a big error as he’d openly admitted a couple of times during different seasons he’d lost his love for playing the game. Whist he’s been ok sadly he can not do 80mins anymore yet our so called experienced Coach still continues that well trodden path with a player that can no longer do long stints.
We have players we are stuck with due to crazy long term deals handed out as a reward for nothing more than mediocrity.

Despite all the talk from Smith about the work they are doing in training and discipline we are simply worse than ever and even our basic skill set which was pretty poor prior to Smiths arrival is now non existent.

The club is in a complete and utter shambles from top to bottom.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7205
JoinedServiceReputation
May 06 200915 years33rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Apr 24 22:5826th Apr 24 22:58LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
once a black and white always a black and white COYH

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:31 pm  
I've defended Smith . But wouldnt be bothered if he went. But some of those players need to look in the mirror. Whoever is coaching some of there effort and general couldn't give a poop attitude is terrible
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner21539
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 25 200321 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Apr 24 20:5526th Apr 24 19:53LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:32 pm  
hatty wrote:
I’m not even a Hull fan but something has to change at Hull after that performance. You’re crying out for a complete overhaul just as we were at Wigan before we brought Maguire in. One or two have mentioned Shaun Wane and I would say that if you could tempt him then go all out to get him.


Would be great but a totally un-Pearson like appointment. He's more likely to promote Stanley Gene.
UllFC 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16914No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 27 200420 years34th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Apr 24 20:4226th Apr 24 17:31LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:33 pm  
hatty wrote:
I’m not even a Hull fan but something has to change at Hull after that performance. You’re crying out for a complete overhaul just as we were at Wigan before we brought Maguire in. One or two have mentioned Shaun Wane and I would say that if you could tempt him then go all out to get him.


Problem is we have no money, I'm not even sure we can afford to sack Smith. Even then I'd expect Grix the assistant to be promoted as a replacement
WIZEB 
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12463
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 23 200914 years46th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Apr 24 21:0626th Apr 24 19:58LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The Hamptons of East Yorkshire

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:37 pm  
Funny, he was seen as our saviour on here by most apart from the odd discerning voice.
Groundhog day
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Armavinit, Bing [Bot], CarlB, fosdyke99, Greavsie, hull2524, Hullrealist, Maninasuitcase, Markyboy69, McFc, Monkey Fc, mwindass, RockNRolla, swissfan, Whatamidoinghere?, Windy winger and 571 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
TV games not Wire
Smiffy27
2954
15m
Todays match v Leigh
Smiffy27
69
15m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35694
16m
Ed barber
Greg Florimo
8
20m
Shopping list for 2025
Markyboy69
1134
21m
Team comparison 2016&2018 to now - Just for fun
Smiffy27
2
23m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57603
31m
Castleford away next
Deadcowboys1
39
56m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Backwoodsman
1614
56m
RD 9 Hull FC A
leeds owl
19
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14s
Recruitment rumours and links
easyWire
2386
14s
Wigan academy products
Mild Rover
18
16s
Squads - Leopards v Dragons
Leyther in n
10
18s
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1148
21s
TV Games - Not Hull
Mild Rover
1518
21s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28360
24s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35694
37s
Team comparison 2016&2018 to now - Just for fun
Smiffy27
2
41s
Ed barber
Greg Florimo
8
49s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
596
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Team comparison 2016&2018 to now - Just for fun
Smiffy27
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Destroys the Catalans Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
CATALANS KICK OFF TIME 25TH MAY
Foti with th
1
TODAY
Injury Tracker
Bull Mania
2
TODAY
Ed barber
Greg Florimo
8
TODAY
Substitutions
Hangerman2
4
TODAY
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax Drop Goal
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Sam Eseh
CM Punk
2
TODAY
RD 9 Hull FC A
leeds owl
19
TODAY
Squad for Salford
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Info
LancashireRe
7
TODAY
Hunslet RLFC
FIL
2
TODAY
Toulouse next
Trojan Horse
23
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Dragons
Leyther in n
10
TODAY
Paul Rowley wont be taking the Hull FC job
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
SWINTON LIONS
Tony Fax
12
TODAY
swinton
Brew
2
TODAY
KR A
bishops fing
65
TODAY
Vale Terry Hill
Sadfish
1
TODAY
George King
satanicmills
5
TODAY
Widnes H
Rafa9
12
TODAY
French championship final
RobRiches
7
TODAY
Josh Drinkwater
imwakefieldt
22
TODAY
Dons v Dewsbury Sunday 28/4/24 3pm
Jemmo
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
246
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
309
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
1216
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
831
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
1054
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
1092
France v England International..
1758
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
2373
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
2122
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
2076
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
2125
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
2526
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
3028
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
3015
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
2649
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist