Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:31 am  

Cuddleclub wrote:

Gary Carter suggesting there will be some clarification on accidental collisions today. Probably a few days too late. They might actually admit they got it wrong. Which doesn’t help us.

If it means changes are made for the good of the game then so be it.

But there was so much wrong with incidents in the games over the weekend that much more needs to change than clearing confusion over head clashes?

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:40 am  

From Steve Mascord

A ZOOM meeting between Super League captains will take place on Wednesday to discuss a new players’ association in the wake of the high contact crackdown by the RFL. Salford skipper Ryan Brierley, also a women’s soccer player agent, put the call out on Twitter and must have received a positive response. When we approached him at Salford Community Stadium last night for an interview, he told us to ring him on Thursday. Despite some calls for industrial action, the first step will be for the group to appoint their representatives and call for a meeting with the Rugby Football League. To an extent, the euphoria around the Wold Club Challenge has lowered the temperature of the debate just a little. But it was only 24 hours before that Nu Brown’s dismissal had the mercury bursting out of the thermometer. If the players want to give up their time to unionise - without subs - then they can get things done. If they’re trying to have a paid union, history shows it’s difficult.

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:56 am  

mwindass wrote:

From Steve Mascord

A ZOOM meeting between Super League captains will take place on Wednesday to discuss a new players’ association in the wake of the high contact crackdown by the RFL. Salford skipper Ryan Brierley, also a women’s soccer player agent, put the call out on Twitter and must have received a positive response. When we approached him at Salford Community Stadium last night for an interview, he told us to ring him on Thursday. Despite some calls for industrial action, the first step will be for the group to appoint their representatives and call for a meeting with the Rugby Football League. To an extent, the euphoria around the Wold Club Challenge has lowered the temperature of the debate just a little. But it was only 24 hours before that Nu Brown’s dismissal had the mercury bursting out of the thermometer. If the players want to give up their time to unionise - without subs - then they can get things done. If they’re trying to have a paid union, history shows it’s difficult.

Not difficult at all, just affiliate to an existing union such as Unite and elect their own representative but and it’s a big but trying to get individuals to put their heads up above the parapets to be shot at by the authorities. Every player would need to join and be in total solidarity behind the movement. Unionisation is still very much frowned upon, even in this day and age. I know from personal past experience.

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:46 am  

davey41 wrote:

If it means changes are made for the good of the game then so be it.

But there was so much wrong with incidents in the games over the weekend that much more needs to change than clearing confusion over head clashes?

Can’t confess to watching much more than our game over the weekend (mainly because of how it is at the minute) but I agree, Donaldson been one, that would have been a red round one.

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:52 am  

I will be astounded if Nu Brown picks up a ban, the uproar that would unfold would be incredible.

Worst case him, Sutcliffe and Hoy pick up bans (from what I recall). Sao and Houghton back, Carlos 50/50.

Wouldn't doubt our ability to muscle up down the middle, but where our points will come from is a huge worry.

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:05 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

I will be astounded if Nu Brown picks up a ban, the uproar that would unfold would be incredible.

Worst case him, Sutcliffe and Hoy pick up bans (from what I recall). Sao and Houghton back, Carlos 50/50.

Wouldn't doubt our ability to muscle up down the middle, but where our points will come from is a huge worry.

Can’t see Carlos being back he said round 3/4, so I’d always take it as the latter with him.

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:10 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

I will be astounded if Nu Brown picks up a ban, the uproar that would unfold would be incredible.

Worst case him, Sutcliffe and Hoy pick up bans (from what I recall). Sao and Houghton back, Carlos 50/50.

Wouldn't doubt our ability to muscle up down the middle, but where our points will come from is a huge worry.

Wouldn't trust the RFL.

Thought we looked fairly a lot better with ball in hand against Warrington.

Fancy us to win by a couple of trys.

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:25 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Wouldn't trust the RFL.

Thought we looked fairly a lot better with ball in hand against Warrington.

Fancy us to win by a couple of trys.

I don’t trust them either,, I can see him getting a ban. Rightly or wrongly….wrongly obviously.

[Chris71]

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:27 am  

davey41 wrote:

Cuddleclub wrote:

Gary Carter suggesting there will be some clarification on accidental collisions today. Probably a few days too late. They might actually admit they got it wrong. Which doesn’t help us.

If it means changes are made for the good of the game then so be it.

But there was so much wrong with incidents in the games over the weekend that much more needs to change than clearing confusion over head clashes?

As you say Davey there is so much more wrong than just a case of confusion over head clashes. There seems to be a big issue in terms of not just the level of consistency and interpretation between the officials but also a level of inconsistency/interpretation with the same officials during a game.
Then there is also the same issue with Cliche Cullen and the MRP in the way it adjudicates as there is still very little if any transparency in there decisions/punishments/sanctions reached by them.

All in all the lack of any true accountability of any sort and at any level or dept within the RFL reeks.

Its just not something that a minor clarification will address or resolve.

On to the game on Sunday, its difficult to know what position we will be in player wise until the MRP meet. I would hope that the RFL, Officials & MRP come to their senses and admit to Nu's red card being a cataclysmic clusterf#*k but I won't hold my breath such is their inability to get or do things right. We could well see Brown given SOS but in exchange see Sutcliffe, Hoy & Gardiner banned.

Think Houghton is back as we played on the Thursday when he failed his HIA and we play on Sunday which is over the two week period, worst case scenario

Walker
Martin
McIntosh
Okunbor
Barron
Harman
Smith
Brown/Sao
Houghton/Balmforth
Ashworth
Staveley
Sao
Lane

Balmforth/Hodgson
Severs
Laidlaw
Diakhate

Best Case Scenario

Walker
Martin
Carlos
Sutty
McIntosh
Smith
Hoy
Sao
Houghton/Brown
Ashworth
Ockunbor
Staveley
Brown/Houghton

Balmforth
J. Brown
Gardiner/Laidlaw
Severs/Lane

Re: London at home : Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:38 am  

It says a lot that nobody can name a probable team until after the MRP meet such is the level of confusion and inconsistency as to what deserves a ban these days.