Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:52 pm  

Thetalentboy wrote:

We took over 2,000 to Huddersfield on a Monday night in 2001

1st proper away game for 18 months was a poor following for me

And I was

Are you sure about that? The attendance was 3859 and their average that year was 3666 so you're saying clubs took around 1700 travelling fans on average.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:02 pm  

Riderofthepalehorse wrote:

And imagine what they would have done to Ben Flower, Clubb & Bad Tompkins eh

nice one rider.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:10 pm  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

Agree. It's a specialist position. There's more to being a hooker than scooting from dummy half plus he's never played there before.

Its not a specialist position any more.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:20 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

That's a good call on McNamara, once Reynolds is back you could play him hooker off the bench, he did a short spell there against Huddersfield at home.

Really dont understand the reasoning there.
You dismiss the idea of Shaul at nine yet like the idea of playing Mcnamara at nine when he is very similar to Johnstone who most of us have written off as a replacement for Houghton.
Whilst McNamara is still young he like Johnstone lacks pace and probably will be the reason he never makes it in Super League.
We saw last night what a half back with pace can do and he at 18 is younger than Mcnamara .

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Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:28 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Its not a specialist position any more.

Of course it is still a specialist position. A hooker probably touches the ball more, has more involvements and makes more decisions than any other player on the park.

Some players have the skill set to convert into a hooker, James Roby for example, but you can't just throw anybody in there and expect to compete.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:31 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Sorry but I just don't agree with you on this and think calling him a backside is pretty poor.

The incident with Clubb clearly upset and unsettled him but I personally thought he handled that well and I'm not sure which game you were watching but I never saw him screaming his head at a camera as a crazy mad man or otherwise. I saw him walking, facing and talking in to a camera, yes, quite animated, yes, as he was clearly angry and upset about something and understandably so. To say he was screaming his head off like a crazy mad man is way off the mark.

As for the Jones incident again it was clear on the images beamed to my TV that Jones came running in grabbing Savelio then threw the first punch with his right hand whilst holding on to Savelio's shirt collar (very much like ice hockey players do) Savelio took exception to that as most would and threw back in defence at which point Jones then covered up and other players smothered them both.

Its been quite evident form all the games against Huddersfield this season that there is some ill feeling between Jones and his ex team mates and in particular theres been a lot of needle between Jones with Mau and Savelio.
So I think this has been brewing for quite some time and possibly even before he left the club. I would hazard a guess that there is more to Jones early departure from the club than the reason given. Also its very very rare to see a complete group of ex team mates have no dealings whatsoever with the departed player before or after a game as is evidently the case with Hull players and Jones. It begs the question as to the real reason of his absence from the club whilst as a player at Hull or should I say whilst supposedly a player at Hull FC.

You then notice Mahe Fonua going to the touchline with Savelio until someone from the Hull FC staff are there to usher him to the dressing room, which again indicates to me that there's more to last night than Jones just defending a player who was hit hard but fair.

This may just be my opinion and all hypothetical but when you look at everything that has gone on, I think its fair to say there is a high probability that something has gone on or rather off within the playing squad involving Jones which hastened his exit from Hull FC.

spot on Chris
There was nothing wrong with the tackle.If Savelio had not reacted to Jones punch which would have been really difficult not to then he would not have been sent off

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:33 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Its not a specialist position any more.

I can't think of many if any player let alone a full back who have successfully switched position to hooker in their late 20's and made a success of it.

Hookers have their hands on the ball more than any player and probably have to make more decisions as well. People complain about Houghton's slow service, unfairly in my opinion, so what would Shaul's be like.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:39 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

Of course it is still a specialist position. A hooker probably touches the ball more, has more involvements and makes more decisions than any other player on the park.

Some players have the skill set to convert into a hooker, James Roby for example, but you can't just throw anybody in there and expect to compete.

Did you answer Dave K's question about how Hull have taken the mickey out of the system re: match postponements?

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:40 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

Of course it is still a specialist position. A hooker probably touches the ball more, has more involvements and makes more decisions than any other player on the park.

Some players have the skill set to convert into a hooker, James Roby for example, but you can't just throw anybody in there and expect to compete.

So In your opinion Danny Houghton has a skill set? He is or was just a tackle machine and the game has moved on
You see lots of different players now pick up at the play the ball.Its no longer a specialist position

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:47 pm  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

I can't think of many if any player let alone a full back who have successfully switched position to hooker in their late 20's and made a success of it.

Hookers have their hands on the ball more than any player and probably have to make more decisions as well. People complain about Houghton's slow service, unfairly in my opinion, so what would Shaul's be like.

Only one I can think is Berrigan

How old was he when he moved to hooker? He was already an established international centre at the time I think.

This doesn't mean I want to try Shaul at hooker though