FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - AP
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain416
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 28 20168 years248th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Mar 24 09:1915th Feb 24 21:13LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: AP : Sun May 16, 2021 4:01 pm  
Rocknrolla69er wrote:
From a financial point of view you've got to wonder how much we pay out in the

Rent for the training ground
the SMC tenancy agreement I'm not sure of all the agreements but I guess there's a few financial hits
One being a percentage of ticket sales over 8500 , is it ? goes to the SMC
Somebody mentioned having to pay for Sneyd to practice kicks etc
Paying 53K out to play the Catalans game
Food and beverage sales how much do we keep if any at all

All which could be kept if we had our own stadium and training ground, and reinvested into the club


There’s no food or beverages being served on Monday and will not until full attendance is allowed.
Others wanting the council to do something we saw they are powerless when bridgegate debacle took place. The stadium is run by whoever runs SMC, council remain owners of the land. That was what all the ho ha was about when the Allams wanted the ground as well.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 07 200518 years33rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 21:0918th Mar 24 20:30LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Re: AP : Sun May 16, 2021 5:34 pm  
Just to make it clear with all the reduction in grants and central funding the council suffered from they were and still are struggling to carry out their commitments on statutory services never mind sports arenas so they agreed with the SMC that providing they do all the repairs and maintenance of the Stadium the Council although still owners of it would relinquish all control of what happens there. Thats why the were powerless with Bridgegate to do anything. Also the Clubs lease is not running out, for it is for 50 years but after 25 it is up for review and the SMC although not able to chuck us out can change the terms and conditions of the lease and that's what Adam is worried about because if they are squeezing us now under the current agreement who knows what they will do come 2027 and the cost of legal battles over that would be phenomenal.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4590
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200222 years22nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 18:0419th Mar 24 09:21LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull F.C.

Re: AP : Sun May 16, 2021 6:24 pm  
Wonder if there are break clauses in the lease, as well as review dates? Does a review have to be agreed by both parties as well?

The lease may also state the tenant can serve notice?

There must be some release mechanism, or I’d presume they wouldn’t waste their time looking into the possibility of moving grounds?

Lots of questions

Maybe explains why we’ve now got legal representation at board level.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator7759
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 200420 years4th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 19:5619th Mar 24 08:19LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Never never land away with the fairies
Signature
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
Moderator

Re: AP : Sun May 16, 2021 6:29 pm  
The Dentist Wilf wrote:
Just to make it clear with all the reduction in grants and central funding the council suffered from they were and still are struggling to carry out their commitments on statutory services never mind sports arenas so they agreed with the SMC that providing they do all the repairs and maintenance of the Stadium the Council although still owners of it would relinquish all control of what happens there. Thats why the were powerless with Bridgegate to do anything. Also the Clubs lease is not running out, for it is for 50 years but after 25 it is up for review and the SMC although not able to chuck us out can change the terms and conditions of the lease and that's what Adam is worried about because if they are squeezing us now under the current agreement who knows what they will do come 2027 and the cost of legal battles over that would be phenomenal.


That’s the problem with the deal that when it was written all parties where amicable but the council never thought of the consequences should the SMC get in the hands of someone with let’s say very different motives. The SMC in any capacity should have always had a board that consisted of a member of the SMC, Hull City, Hull FC, HCC and also some community representative.
Something should have been put in the clauses in terms ‘unfair terms’ if the agreement is being used in such a way that is against the principles of the agreement. It would seem that the council never gave the foresight to do this. The state of the KCOM last time I was there was pretty poor and it begs the question as to if they are even sticking to the agreement in terms of up keep & maintenance.

Whether the council like it or not unfortunately they may have to get their hands dirty and deal with an issue that they created instead of ignoring it in the hope it goes away.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4590
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200222 years22nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 18:0419th Mar 24 09:21LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull F.C.

Re: AP : Sun May 16, 2021 8:56 pm  
Hull CC have kicked it into the long grass too many times, in the hope of avoiding confrontation. At the end of the day it was built using public money, with the idea of it being a community stadium.

It will come to a point where they can’t ignore it any further.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11534
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 01 200519 years139th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 22:5618th Mar 24 16:21LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: AP : Sun May 16, 2021 10:05 pm  
not confident when 2027 we will be offered a good deal, 6 years should be enough time to find funding, hopefully Adam has some good contacts in the private equity firms, Allams' don't look like they are ever going to sell up!
ccs 
RankPostsTeam
International Star5318
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 15 201113 years155th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Aug 22 17:5120th Aug 22 16:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

Re: AP : Mon May 17, 2021 4:11 pm  
Chairman's notes for tonight's game....

.......It is a genuine consideration for us now, having had to pay £700,000 to use the KCOM Stadium last season for just five matches. It simply isn’t fair or sustainable in the long term.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 07 200518 years33rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 21:0918th Mar 24 20:30LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Re: AP : Mon May 17, 2021 4:15 pm  
Yep everyone should read those for it re-iterates what someone tried to put on here earlier in the week before the Mods removed it. He's really laying it on the line and the Allams are an absolute disgrace. It looks like he wants to prepare us all in case he needs to mobilise the fans too!
Last edited by The Dentist Wilf on Mon May 17, 2021 4:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner21350
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 25 200320 years7th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 21:1118th Mar 24 14:07LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: AP : Mon May 17, 2021 4:23 pm  
Strong words from Adam Pearson. Interesting times lie ahead!
RankPostsTeam
International Star6791No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 04 201410 years8th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Mar 24 01:0718th Mar 24 16:46LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: AP : Mon May 17, 2021 5:34 pm  
ComeOnYouUll wrote:
Strong words from Adam Pearson. Interesting times lie ahead!


full backing from all Hull Fc supporters
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Charlie_0010, Dave K., giddyupoldfella, HU8HFC, mwindass, RockNRolla, TnT, weaver93 and 482 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Dave K.
180
1m
Giants in the Cup - can we get Up for the Cup
TnT
75
1m
RD 5 St Helens H
batleyrhino
284
5m
Thompson charged
Pie Eyed
18
6m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
33873
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55530
12m
Ky Rodwell
Prince Buste
59
16m
Misis Match Shirt Draw
Jemmo
4
23m
Good Friday
MattyB
62
34m
Challenge Cup 6th Round
Brew
31
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
Thompson charged
Pie Eyed
18
36s
RD 5 St Helens H
batleyrhino
284
41s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
cheekydiddle
8680
44s
Mark Campbell to step down at Fev
RoyBoy29
1
45s
State of the Nation
K-Diddy
156
1m
RL Podcasts
RL Outsiders
1
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1365
1m
Leigh at home
B0NES
382
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28244
1m
Challenge Cup 6th Round
Brew
31
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Programmes for sale
Brian Middle
1
TODAY
Aussie programmes and books for sale
Brian Middle
1
TODAY
Widnes programmes for sale
Brian Middle
1
TODAY
Mark Campbell to step down at Fev
RoyBoy29
1
TODAY
RL Podcasts
RL Outsiders
1
TODAY
Oliver Holmes
LeythIg
4
TODAY
New Poster
BarnsleyTrin
9
TODAY
Easy Win for the Wolves Over London Moves Them Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays match v London
rubber ducki
61
TODAY
Charlie Birdsall RIP
hull2524
12
TODAY
Total rl
Bullseye
4
TODAY
Giants in the Cup - can we get Up for the Cup
TnT
75
TODAY
Sheffield
moto748
3
TODAY
Road Roller Required to flatten & Press
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Dragons Condemn Castleford To Another Loss
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dreadful - Watsons future
Murphy
14
TODAY
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Dave K.
180
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Secure First Points Of The Season In Style
Budgiezilla
2
TODAY
Hull FC
PopTart
13
TODAY
Oliver Russell
Wollo-Wollo-
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
278
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
353
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
457
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
478
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
575
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
646
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3383
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
855
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
752
Leeds Rhinos Win Game of Two H..
965
Warrington Beat Hull KR In Bre..
870
Hull FC Win At The Death To Cr..
1165
Salford Red Devils Spoil Hull ..
968
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for D..
1132
Warriors Maintain Great Start ..
1138
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist