Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 6:04 pm  

Hopefully the snowball is starting to roll a little bit faster !! , The dirt around the stadium concourse is disgusting and Im sure public health inspectors should be made aware of the issues now blighting the KC stadium .

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 6:06 pm  

If you take the tribal emotion out of it it comes down to this.
The KCOM stadium is a publicly owned asset.
The Council appointed the SMC as its custodian, presumably to manage its operation for the benefit of both tenants, and to preserve its condition and value for the taxpayer. It seems to be failing on both counts.
As has long been the case the Council seemingly has no interest or appetite in holding them to account - the Allams have good expensive lawyers I would expect. We have seen today the council advise people to flag concerns to the SMC but no interest in getting involved. Rather than taking them to task over their failure to deliver, they simply advise fans of the sub lessees to send an email, which they fully know will be ignored, in a misspelt tweet. Beyond weak.
So in effect we are knackered. No leverage, no protection from the council, no realistic alternative.

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 7:01 pm  

Thing is, if I remember rightly, the management of the SMC was thrown in as a sweetener originally when AP took over City. It should have been set up as a stand alone entity from the outset, but Hull CC haven’t managed their asset at all since it’s been built, and they seem to be washing their hands of it now as well.

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 7:15 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Thing is, if I remember rightly, the management of the SMC was thrown in as a sweetener originally when AP took over City. It should have been set up as a stand alone entity from the outset, but Hull CC haven’t managed their asset at all since it’s been built, and they seem to be washing their hands of it now as well.

We were given the option to be part of the SMC, but it was not financially viable, so we declined the offer.

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 7:25 pm  

ccs wrote:

We were given the option to be part of the SMC, but it was not financially viable, so we declined the offer.

Think Shane Richardson didn’t want to put the required money in at the time.
Just think the Council should have created an SMC with representation from all parties.
I know they didn’t want the hassle of running a stadium but they’re reaping what they’ve sown.

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 8:41 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Think Shane Richardson didn’t want to put the required money in at the time.
Just think the Council should have created an SMC with representation from all parties.
I know they didn’t want the hassle of running a stadium but they’re reaping what they’ve sown.

The council aren’t reaping what they sow. We are!

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 8:42 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Thing is, if I remember rightly, the management of the SMC was thrown in as a sweetener originally when AP took over City. It should have been set up as a stand alone entity from the outset, but Hull CC haven’t managed their asset at all since it’s been built, and they seem to be washing their hands of it now as well.

It wasn't exactly a sweeter. Actually in 2001 after the Council had approached several stadium management agencies to run the place and none were willing to take it on (down to the size of the place the potential gate projections for both teams and the fact that there were a lot of stadiums and arenas coming on stream and not too many large scale facility management companies around) Shane Richardson and Adam were approached to run it together for the Council. Richo however wasn't interested at all, he had enough on with Hull FC and it was too much of a financial, commitment for us back then plus he was planning to return to Australia anyway and so Adam took it on. With the Council agreeing to maintain the place. Soon this became too much of a burden on the Councils revenue provision and the SMC agreed to take on the maintenance of the stadium in exchange for the Council relinquishing any control they had over the running of the place. Thus the current situation and the Councils inability to do anything about what is happening now. From then on the Smc was linked to the owner of the football club and sold with Hull City as the football club changed hands.

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 8:50 pm  

seen on twitter tonight city fans are getting excited about a possible American investor tweeting....................Hull City (and two looking eyes)

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 8:56 pm  

number 6 wrote:

seen on twitter tonight city fans are getting excited about a possible American investor tweeting....................Hull City (and two looking eyes)

It's Jordan Belfort the original Wolf of Wall Street (the Scorsese film starring Leonardo de Caprio was based on his memoirs).

Reports say that he's $100m in debt so maybe City supporters shouldn't get too excited,

Re: AP : Tue May 18, 2021 9:15 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

Soon this became too much of a burden on the Councils revenue provision and the SMC agreed to take on the maintenance of the stadium in exchange for the Council relinquishing any control they had over the running of the place.

Wow. An asset costing £43m and the council signs a deal that forfeits the right to hold the caretaker to account for 50 years? WTAF?