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Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:01 pm  

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Hopefully this galvanises us going forward. We know we’re capable after the cup game, and for all the bemoaning of our attack we’ve shown some real strike already this season. The sky isn’t falling down just yet.
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Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:02 pm  

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I do think we have enough X factor in attack the problem is we're not getting close enough to to the opposition 20 to out it to use, the few times we did we almost scored every time but for a couple of errors or deemed forward passes , it's the pack that needs strengthening


It's both, our pack dominated last week and we still struggled to score, relying on Sataecto power over.

We need another prop and improve our bench, but our attack also needs to improve.
Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:02 pm  

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Props was an issue, but we had enough ball particularly in the first half to win that game


We definitely left some points on the pitch in the first half. The final pass let us down a couple of times.
All in all a pretty poor performance.
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Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:06 pm  

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We just don't have enough of an xfactor in attack. If we are on top in a game and we can dominate it and play it on our terms then we will win. But when we are slightly on the back foot or even just in an arm wrestle I have no confidence in our ability to score. It feels like we need to turn the screw on a team and build pressure for ages before we can find a score. Sometimes you just need cheap points, and we just don't seem to have them in us. Against Wigan in the league I never felt for a moment that we would win once we went 16-14 down. Again tonight, as soon at Catalans leveled I knew we were done.

Hodgson has done a great job on our defence and our general attitude. He needs to turn his attention to our attacking play now. Granted the lack of props isn't helping us, but we need to find some more ways to score.


Needs to look no further than how ineffective Sneyd is as an attacking half back.
Always said the lack of another big front row will come back to bite us and was so evident tonight.
We have to find some speed in the backs.Our backs have to be the slowest in S/L
What i fail to understand was our bench
Johnstone plays 10 minutes and Scott would not have played at all if it hadnt have been for a head knock to Carlos.
Big lesson tonight for Hodgson.
Must have been the influence of the Union coach throwing all those forward passes
Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:07 pm  

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In Super League weve only beaten Hudds and Salford convincingly - We was average against Warrington, Wakefield and Wigan and poor tonight against Catalans

6 games in - 2 decent performances, 3 average, 1 poor - lots of work ahead and as many have said we need another front row now.
Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm  

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In Super League weve only beaten Hudds and Salford convincingly - We was average against Warrington, Wakefield and Wigan and poor tonight against Catalans

6 games in - 2 decent performances, 3 average, 1 poor - lots of work ahead and as many have said we need another front row now.

wondered when you would pop up, nothing last week then hey presto we lose and up you pop,
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Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:11 pm  

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still dont get the knocking of sneyd, hes never been a ball handling half back, but hes the best kicker and organiser around, we got reynolds and connor as ball handlers, plus its our bench whats the problem, we havnt one,
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Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:18 pm  

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Really poor tongiht and agree that Hodgson made an error of judgment with the bench choice.

Hope our terrible home form of recent years isn't going to continue.
Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:24 pm  
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Hardly ever seen a good game against Catalan. Always niggled and messed about at the play the ball, no matter who coaches them.

That said we were disappointing with ball in hand. Think the squad is unbalanced as well. That will hopefully get addressed once BH gets chance.
Re: Next up Catalan Mon May 17, 2021 9:25 pm  

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Thought tonight you’d have thought we were on a on a short turnaround, thought our line speed was poor tonight compared to previous weeks.
Think Hodgson also got it wrong tonight in terms of the bench. We lacked size so don’t understand why Brown & Faraimo weren’t on the bench. Just don’t see the attraction of Cameron Scott in 17 tbh. We seem to have reverted to flogging Houghton for 80mins again, after 60 mins he looked out on his feet. So why didn’t we use Johnstone instead of waiting for nearing 74 mins but then still keep Houghton out. We might as well not bothered having Johnstone or Scott on the bench as Scott only came in when Los went off and Johnstone didn’t even get 10 mins so pointless really.
Losing Carlos hurt us and hope he’ll be ok for next game.
We need another forward with some size quickly as once Satae & Sao were off then Cator and Fash were just far too small against a big Catalans pack. Though I thought Fash for his size did pretty well.
For all the good stuff in terms of improvement we’ve seen so far this season tonight showed we are still a long way off.
Our attacking plays when in the Catalans 20 were poor tonight and it was predictable with no variation.

Really disappointing home coming
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