FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Next up Catalan
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star6581
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 23 20186 years42nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 17:2924th Apr 24 16:46LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:00 am  
His Bobness wrote:
I'm not a troll and accept you were good against a very poor Wigan in the cup. I honestly believe that come the business end Wigan will peak and you will not be able to match them. I may be wrong but it's my honest opinion.

For now you've won 3 from 6 same as Rovers.


Well like it or not, you was completely wrong with your prediction on our cup chances, there’s two trophies worth winning, that’s the business.
Smiggs 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9671
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 200420 years162nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 21:072nd May 24 12:27LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Hull

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:10 am  
Sobering night and performance for us. Back at the KC but it all felt very familiar didn't it. Lack of available props was a huge problem, the lightweight bench also. Can't understand the decision not to have Brown in there. That all took it's toll in the end. Don't get the continued selection of Scott either, I've seen nothing in him yet to suggest he's 1st team material.
Our defence is clearly much improved but our attack despite our much vaunted pivots is stuttering and needs to be much better. We've seen glimpses of it but not enough. I agree with those who have highlighted Sneyd performances, imo he needs to step up, he's the weak link of the three.
This season could yet go either way yet hopefully Hodgson will learn from this.
RankPostsTeam
International Star1413No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 18 201410 years64th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd May 24 10:1320th Apr 24 13:13LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:10 am  
Going forward, I'm hoping next season we can find an attacking hooker, as were stunted st times from the hooking position and through Sneyd lately who's just not doing it for me.

Taylor and Bowden back Asap, Sao and Satae need some support, Brown has to come in for the bench. And use Johnstone more and we may see a more livelier scooting Houghton.

The teams above us just seem to have more game smarts than us at times and that's where Sneyd is lacking currently no pressure relieving kicks at all last night apart from Reynolds 40/20. If we d of spoiled like Catalans last night we d of crucified with the buzzer.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29719No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 15 200519 years22nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 22:233rd May 24 18:50LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
West Yorkshire

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:14 am  
Rocknrolla69er wrote:
Going forward, I'm hoping next season we can find an attacking hooker, as were stunted st times from the hooking position and through Sneyd lately who's just not doing it for me.

Taylor and Bowden back Asap, Sao and Satae need some support, Brown has to come in for the bench. And use Johnstone more and we may see a more livelier scooting Houghton.

The teams above us just seem to have more game smarts than us at times and that's where Sneyd is lacking currently no pressure relieving kicks at all last night apart from Reynolds 40/20. If we d of spoiled like Catalans last night we d of crucified with the buzzer.


Is there any news on Taylor? Or Bowden for that matter?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator7864
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 200420 years3rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 12:534th May 24 01:39LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Never never land away with the fairies
Signature
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
Moderator

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:21 am  
Dave K. wrote:
Thetalentboy wrote:
People are raving about Connor yet he single handedly lost us the match against Wigan

Yet people don't mention that or the interception against Wakefield

Bet they soon notice if the Wigan game was a play off match


If you think you can blame one person for a defeat than I'm guessing you have never played a team sport, he made a couple of mistakes, as did other people in the game,no one player can be blamed for a defeat like that.

Connor is a our most creative player and gets plenty of criticism, in fact as soon as he has a bad game it highlighted by people like you (who ash mentioed this a few times).

Him and Reynolds are the only pivots who creative something, as you could see yesterday. I love one person to tell me one chance Sneyd created yesterday (you can include kicks) what other halfback in the league, doesn't create one chance and this is a one of things.

I agree on Houghton, great defensively and can scoot well on the back of a quick play the ball, but doesn't create enough for a hooker (which he was in 2016/17), we certainly need another hooker and if Sneyd doesn't improve we then maybe another pivot if we want to challenge.

I know it isn't Hodgsons fault, but have two quota players (One of which doesn't play) and probably 200k tied up on wingers is really hurting us.


Have to say I agree with you Dave, quite how Jake Connor single handedly lost us the game against Wigan is a mystery, he got binned and gave a penalty away but these things happen both of which were contentious decisions I thought. Pity they only point out that and not the fact he was pretty involved in other positive aspects of our play in the game. In regards to the Wakey game and the intercept, had that pass not been picked off then it was a walk in try for us and that is the breaks, I'd rather see a player take some risks with the ball than none at all. Again in that game his impact was again more positive than negative. So far Jake has created a much higher % of scoring chances and ones that we've converted in to points for as opposed to against.

In regards to Houghton we are back to flogging him in games for 80mins and his defensive work whilst admirable, we need more than just a defensive workhorse. At the start of the season when he was fresh and when spelled last season he was looking more like the player from a few seasons ago when he would scoot and put some neat little kicks in. Last night I thought he looked jaded and after 60 mins he looked out on his feet and just don't understand when Hodgson had Johnstone on the bench he just didnt use him and spell him.

We also need more from Sneyd who was very disappointing last night, as with the surface being wet I thought we may have put at least one or two grubbers in when in the Catalans 20. I thought Catalan did a job on Reynolds to snuff him out the game plus our go forward once either Satae or Sao were off was non existent due to the lack of size. We failed to turn around the Catalan pack throughout the 80 and make them work their way out their own 20.

Again I agree that having 2 quota players with only one playing each week is also hurting us, personally I though having Faraimo on the wing and Fonua on the bench as a utility forward to give us some size on the bench would have been a better option. Not having Brown on the bench was also a big mistake by BH unless Brown was a slight doubt as a bench of Cator, Fash, Johnstone & Scott was just far too lightweight when against a large side like Catalan.

Last night was disappointing but we knew there were going to be games that don't go to plan and last night I think was one of those as we just looked off the pace.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain426
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 28 20168 years260th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd May 24 16:4213th Apr 24 10:19LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:36 am  
hull2524 wrote:
still dont get the knocking of sneyd, hes never been a ball handling half back, but hes the best kicker and organiser around, we got reynolds and connor as ball handlers, plus its our bench whats the problem, we havnt one,


For me Snead blows hot and cold - never consistent. Could you explain your opinion that he’s the best organisers around. Do you mean his kicks on the third which comes to nothing.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8340
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 05 200618 years39th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 15:593rd May 24 21:31LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:47 am  
Sneyd is the most un-creative scrum half in the league, and played for too far from the defensive line again yesterday, Houghton picks the wrong option too often - see the ball to Lane when he had 3 men on him last night, and good on Lane for having a go at DH after the play
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7219
JoinedServiceReputation
May 06 200915 years33rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 21:483rd May 24 15:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
once a black and white always a black and white COYH

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:51 am  
Sneyd does all the talking and organization. He didn't kick well last night admitted. But he does seem the whipping boy. We brought Reynolds in as the ball handler with Connor. Neither did anything last night of note. We are struggling in attack but IMO it's not all sneyds fault. Just my opinion
RankPostsTeam
International Star3306
JoinedServiceReputation
May 12 201113 years162nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 20:0923rd Apr 24 13:07LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
West Hull
Signature
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason.
-Emmitt Smith

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 8:52 am  
You can’t bag Sneyd when our pack is beaten and our distribution entirely predictable. Houghton and Johnstone offer nowt going forward.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3549
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 03 200420 years141st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd May 24 12:412nd May 24 22:00LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
United Kingdom
Signature
I have lost interest

Re: Next up Catalan : Tue May 18, 2021 9:02 am  
Jake is not a FB and is simply filling in. He has no PACE!!!! Wayne Bennett saw him as a 6 as any team that has GF ambitions has to have a FB that can be electric with pace. Storm replaced Slater with PapaH not Cronk as an example
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], hullandbroncos and 280 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43m
MYLER
Chris71
3
Recent
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Jack Burton
80
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
bonaire
1345
Recent
RD 10 London Broncos H
ploinerrhino
80
Recent
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Wigans No1 Kris Radlinski
Stanfax
13
Recent
Asiata is going to Hull
Leyther in n
22
Recent
Rowley
ploinerrhino
123
Recent
Sheffield Eagles
Dannyboywt1
65
Recent
Leeds away
the-bearded-
17
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
26s
TV games not Wire
Bunkaib
2962
26s
Recruitment rumours and links
Fantastic Mr
2427
39s
MYLER
Chris71
3
48s
Sheffield Eagles
Dannyboywt1
65
1m
Dons Squad 2024
Jemmo
31
1m
Asiata is going to Hull
Leyther in n
22
1m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
2148
1m
RD 10 London Broncos H
ploinerrhino
80
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35979
2m
McMeeken to Wakefield Confirmed
jonh
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
MYLER
Chris71
3
TODAY
Simple Rhinos Victory Compounds Broncos Misery
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Hull
karetaker
32
TODAY
McMeeken to Wakefield Confirmed
jonh
2
TODAY
Asiata
Zig
1
TODAY
McMeeken To Join Trinity on a four-year deal
homme vaste
13
TODAY
Players out on Loan
weighman
4
TODAY
Asiata is going to Hull
Leyther in n
22
TODAY
Swinton a
Rafa9
5
TODAY
Hanley signs 2 year contract
WYSIWYG2
3
TODAY
Faraimo returns to the Dons
Kick and cha
3
TODAY
Tonights "Crowd"
Simba16
10
TODAY
Stunning Second Half Sees Wigan Thrash the Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
If we cant sign SL players we can
Deadcowboys1
5
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Tigers
Cokey
8
TODAY
James Clark
Roam Ranger
26
TODAY
At last message from the board
Listenup94
3
TODAY
Academy Scholorship womens reserves PDRL teams
Shifty Cat
6
TODAY
Fans Forum
Khlav Kalash
1
TODAY
Rumour Mill Time
Jack Gaskell
7
TODAY
Gawry Hetherington
tad rhino
25
TODAY
Squad Retentions 2024
Alffi_7
5
TODAY
Squad for Hull
fez1
41
TODAY
Warrington Away
Jake the Peg
70
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
140
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
356
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
1588
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
1859
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
1754
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
1856
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
2442
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
2256
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
2377
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
1952
France v England International..
2777
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
3776
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
3113
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
3067
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
3717
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist