Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 10:19 am  

, in Hessle Roader wrote:

I won't hold my breath for that to happen.

An excellent analysis of the incidents that all took place on the same day in front of the cameras and for the fans watching so we can obviously look forward to a statement from the RFL explaining the inept interpratation of the rules and an apology to Jack Brown. They won't ignore this opportunity to make things clear will they, well done Chtris.

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 10:36 am  

Chris71 wrote:

Regarding the tackles by Powell and Brown, I’d argue that Powell’s was actually worse as he attacked the knees from the side which is not in the normal direction of the joint. Browns tackle was from behind the knees in the direction the knee vents.

Hicks stopped the game yet then gave no penalty, no linesman called it neither the VR. Yet Browns was deemed not only a penalty but also a yellow. This all in the same game along with a high shot by Farrell on Griff causing him to fail a head assessment yet surprisingly nothing given even though Hicks saw it and ignored it.

Moving on to the Cas v Salford there was another tackle exactly the same as Brown by Salford on a Cas player and not anything given again.

So either Hicks made an big error with the Brown penalty compounding it with a yellow or he made an error with the Powell one and Thaler again the same error in the Cas v Salford game.

Either way these 3 incidents alone show just how poor and inconsistent the officials are currently yet the RFL seem to do nothing to improve this. I’d also argue the Farrell high shot on Griff which was direct contact with the head was no less reckless than the one Connor made on Hardaker. So be interesting if the RFL and the blind disciplinary panel will do anything on this.

Apologies from my earlier post, no penalty with the Powell incident. This just makes the whole incident to worse.

All these incidents should be addressed collectively tomorrow. This should carry a straight two match ban.

Going forward, it should be a direct sin bin offence and a two match ban. That might then focus the minds of all the players and the referees. If the referees don’t follow this action in the game, then they should also cop a two match ban themselves.

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 10:49 am  

I'd imagine Brown will pick up a two match ban so it's a straight swap for the Catalans game with Fash back in after his ban.

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 10:58 am  

You can't help feel that this shows further that certain clubs constantly get away with things that other clubs don't it occurs too often to be a coincidence. 2 nearly identical tackles around the legs hull concede a penalty and 10 mins and Wigan concede nothing.

Connor and farrells high tackles very similar, farrells was arguably worse as Griffin failed a head test, maybe Griffin should have got up and started throwing verbals and crying to the ref like the worlds best fullback did last week. Connor gets 10 mins and again Wigan don't concede a penalty.

Maybe it's refs are scared to penalise and make big calls against the bigger clubs or maybe its just incompetence but 2 nearly identical incidents in 2 weeks and only one team is punished makes you think.

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 11:00 am  

Hull FC are so impressive, performance improvement game on game as the play book message become reality. Where we are today is everything we could have hoped for in just a handfull of games. So, it’s still early days really, but we were like a machine yesterday against a team big on history and favours. I’m wondering......could there be more improvement to come ?
If there is, my word, we are going to be so hard to knock over and fingers crossed we could just be at the start of a very special period in FC history. I just hope the Hodgson Ellis combo is ours for the long term and the start of a legacy.

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 11:04 am  

Gaskell was on report for a similar tackle on Thursday as well. Given that the Disciplinary Panel have to look at that and the Brown tackle it will be interesting to see if they look at the Powell tackle as well - and telling if they do not.

[Chris71]

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 11:04 am  

Touchliner wrote:

An excellent analysis of the incidents that all took place on the same day in front of the cameras and for the fans watching so we can obviously look forward to a statement from the RFL explaining the inept interpratation of the rules and an apology to Jack Brown. They won't ignore this opportunity to make things clear will they, well done Chtris.

It will certainly be interesting what the RFL and disciplinary panel will do and see how they deal with 3 incidents that all were almost identical, Browns tackle and the one by Salford were pretty much identical but one a penalty and sin bin the other nothing. Then the Powell one which was the worst of the 3 again no penalty and Powell has a habit of this technique.

So all 3 on the same day in full view of officials and TV cameras.

But no doubt after such a great job with the Savelio/Clubb situation I can only think of another mess in the making.

[Chris71]

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 11:11 am  

Rugby Raider wrote:

Apologies from my earlier post, no penalty with the Powell incident. This just makes the whole incident to worse.

All these incidents should be addressed collectively tomorrow. This should carry a straight two match ban.

Going forward, it should be a direct sin bin offence and a two match ban. That might then focus the minds of all the players and the referees. If the referees don’t follow this action in the game, then they should also cop a two match ban themselves.

I’d say Browns tackle was the same as the one Fash was pinged for against Huddersfield (IIRC?) and he was given a caution by the panel as it was deemed he hadn’t put the joint in an unnormal direction or words to that affect.

I know the officials have a hard job but the incidents on show in the games yesterday really do high light the big inconsistencies not only game to game with different officials but more worryingly by the same officials in the same game which are just too frequent to not address or ignore.

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 2:19 pm  

Uppo58 wrote:

Hull FC are so impressive, performance improvement game on game as the play book message become reality. Where we are today is everything we could have hoped for in just a handfull of games. So, it’s still early days really, but we were like a machine yesterday against a team big on history and favours. I’m wondering......could there be more improvement to come ?
If there is, my word, we are going to be so hard to knock over and fingers crossed we could just be at the start of a very special period in FC history. I just hope the Hodgson Ellis combo is ours for the long term and the start of a legacy.

We played the conditions well yesterday.
The improvement has to come from our attack and not just rely on barge overs and i am certain it will once we get Reynolds back to full fitness and Connor back at full back.
Just wish we had some real pace in our backs

Re: Challenge Cup Quarter Final v Wigan Warriors : Sun May 09, 2021 2:27 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

I'd imagine Brown will pick up a two match ban so it's a straight swap for the Catalans game with Fash back in after his ban.

There will certainly be grounds for appeal if Brown is banned and Powell isnt given the same punishment especially as Brown was sent the sin bin.