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Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 12:19 pm  

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With the massive news this morning, I'd doubt Wilson will he going to Cas.

Also gives us a massive advantage over Rovers, we are no in pole position to get the best local players and Cas wont be poaching our players for a while.

Not sure it's a great decision for the game though


Wilson won't be going to Cas anyway. Andy Last will be though to join up with Radders unless CC loses his job at Wakey and Last gets the head coaches gig
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 12:24 pm  

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Brilliant news for us. Congratulations to the club, so much hard work gone into the application so great to see just reward. We've heard a lot about John Bastian being Rovers most important signing of all time, so if true I guess we will be having a conversation? Or if not we just file him under HKR unfounded hyperbole along with Jamie Peacock.
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 12:30 pm  

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Wilson won't be going to Cas anyway. Andy Last will be though to join up with Radders unless CC loses his job at Wakey and Last gets the head coaches gig


If Wakey get beat by Rovers on sunday, I can see Chris Chester walking away. He looked totally deflated last week.
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 12:50 pm  

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Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 12:57 pm  
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I probably disagree with these elite licenses, the game is on its booty, and the guys at the top table need moving on, the RFL is usually the main culprit, but I think on this occasion it’s a joint decision with Super league.

Don’t get me wrong it’s great for us, and I assume we will pick up all of the best candidates at tender ages, but as a sport in general, wouldn’t we want as many teams as possible to run academy, and reserve fixtures off a level playing field.

I don’t pretend to know all the reasoning behind this decision,

We are nothing without the strength of the complete competition, apparently they denied Cas a license, because of their location and the catchment of other clubs, it can only be Leeds & Wakey.

Yet we see Saints Wire & Wigan all get licenses, location rule not applicable on this occasion.

Hudgel once said, they are not fit for purpose, and he was right.
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 1:05 pm  

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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
I don’t pretend to know all the reasoning behind this decision.


Try the first 2 criteria for starters....

1. To ensure that Academies are operated sensitively and proportionately to the continuing good health of the Community Game;

2. That the number of players selected for Academies is proportionate to the number of players within the Community Game at the relevant age and that the players selected have a genuine opportunity of progressing into the Super League and National teams;
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 1:13 pm  
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How does this affect Hudges mission statement to sign all the best local players?
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 1:14 pm  
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ccs wrote:
Try the first 2 criteria for starters....

1. To ensure that Academies are operated sensitively and proportionately to the continuing good health of the Community Game;

2. That the number of players selected for Academies is proportionate to the number of players within the Community Game at the relevant age and that the players selected have a genuine opportunity of progressing into the Super League and National teams;


Well thanks for that, so how on earth using those first 2 criteria, are Rovers contravening this,
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 1:15 pm  
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How does this affect Hudges mission statement to sign all the best local players?


Lol I never said he was always right.
Re: Academy Prospects Fri May 21, 2021 1:25 pm  

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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
Well thanks for that, so how on earth using those first 2 criteria, are Rovers contravening this,

It's based on the theory that (too many) academies in some areas have severely impacted on the community game.
Two in our area is probably one too many, perhaps.

Also, there was a very strict limit on how many Elite Academies there would be...

"That led to an agreement that a maximum of 12 licences should be awarded – up to nine in “Core Affinity Areas”, up to two in “Emerging Affinity Areas”, and up to one in France."
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