Re: Academy Prospects : Thu May 27, 2021 7:11 pm  

Interesting to hear Ralph Rimmer tonight on the length of time the process has been underway (3 years) and seems that the primary aim is quality of academies rather than quantity of participants. And that currently academies aren't delivering high enough quality so can't continue to just do what's historically been done. I guess time will tell whether the decisions will deliver.

[Chris71]

Re: Academy Prospects : Thu May 27, 2021 9:06 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Interesting to hear Ralph Rimmer tonight on the length of time the process has been underway (3 years) and seems that the primary aim is quality of academies rather than quantity of participants. And that currently academies aren't delivering high enough quality so can't continue to just do what's historically as a mandatory been done. I guess time will tell whether the decisions will deliver.

I think it would possibly be a fair shout to say the number of talented young players coming through on the whole had been in a steady decline for a few years now. So in some ways I can see the logic in trying to actually make a change in terms of focusing more intently on smaller groups to then see a greater number make it as opposed to diluting the groups and seeing less make it

I’m not sure the lack of academies for a period helped or the farcical set up when AP invested heavily in the last reincarnation of the Academy only to see the fixtures become a lottery as to whether there would be an opposing team to play each week.

I still think it’s imperative that all SL clubs should have a proper Acadamy set up and it should be mandatory. Too many clubs for too long have neglected that part of the game due to cost saving or wanting to use that money for the first team.

I think the Elite Licensing may yet prove to be a good thing but hope they have a review period in 2 or 3 years to see the impact good and bad on the game. Ones things for sure and that is it’s a very emotive subject.

Re: Academy Prospects : Thu May 27, 2021 9:15 pm  

Rfl stated they were in regular dialogue with SL clubs and gave 2 extended deadlines.
No one seems to have mentioned kr have in their sl history not really produced many regular sl quality players.
Indeed 8 of their current first team have 3 fc players plus 5 recruited from Bradford.
Whilst I don’t agree with the “ elite “ branding
Clearly something isn’t working within academy structures.

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 9:00 am  

Boardwalkempire3 wrote:

Rfl stated they were in regular dialogue with SL clubs and gave 2 extended deadlines.
No one seems to have mentioned kr have in their sl history not really produced many regular sl quality players.
Indeed 8 of their current first team have 3 fc players plus 5 recruited from Bradford.
Whilst I don’t agree with the “ elite “ branding
Clearly something isn’t working within academy structures.

I dunno, Watts and Tag are pretty decent.

Say there are kids of that calibre who don't get into the Academies at Wakefield or Hull. What is their route now into the top flight? Could a kid from East Hull, Cas or Fev still achieve their potential?

[Chris71]

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 9:25 am  

C for Cuckoo wrote:

Boardwalkempire3 wrote:

Rfl stated they were in regular dialogue with SL clubs and gave 2 extended deadlines.
No one seems to have mentioned kr have in their sl history not really produced many regular sl quality players.
Indeed 8 of their current first team have 3 fc players plus 5 recruited from Bradford.
Whilst I don’t agree with the “ elite “ branding
Clearly something isn’t working within academy structures.

I dunno, Watts and Tag are pretty decent.

Say there are kids of that calibre who don't get into the Academies at Wakefield or Hull. What is their route now into the top flight? Could a kid from East Hull, Cas or Fev still achieve their potential?

But that is not a very good return at all is it, 2 from several years ago?

I could understand the derision if Rovers had been and were producing players that were capable of playing at the highest level but they haven't. So something isn't right and the Elite Academies should be about what's best for the youth players and giving them the best chance in the game and not what's best for the club.

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am  

Chris71 wrote:

But that is not a very good return at all is it, 2 from several years ago?

I could understand the derision if Rovers had been and were producing players that were capable of playing at the highest level but they haven't. So something isn't right and the Elite Academies should be about what's best for the youth players and giving them the best chance in the game and not what's best for the club.

Cator. Lawler.

Okay that's only 4. But 4 is still higher than zero.

Without the KR academy, how is the next Joe Cator going to get into our first team and the England Knights squad?

And it's not just Rovers. Cas and Bradford produce a lot of players. Can we guarantee those kids that would have come through definitely will?

I hope I'm wrong but I have a bad feeling about this.

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 10:32 am  

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/hu ... direction/ I guess there's only so often you can repeat the words without tangible results. #jamtomorrow

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/hu ... direction/ I guess there's only so often you can repeat the words without tangible results. #jamtomorrow

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 10:59 am  

Watts came from the Cas academy not Rovers.

I think it's a mistake,but some Rovers fans asking for Pearson to come out in support, is it likely that Rovers would publically support Hull if it was the other way around?

I think with all the pressure the RFL will have to fold and allow teams that want an elite academy to do so, maybe have it themselves initially.

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 11:03 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Watts came from the Cas academy not Rovers.

I think it's a mistake,but some Rovers fans asking for Pearson to come out in support, is it likely that Rovers would publically support Hull if it was the other way around?

I think with all the pressure the RFL will have to fold and allow teams that want an elite academy to do so, maybe have it themselves initially.

Yes I'm sure they would, just like how they supported us in 1999.

Re: Academy Prospects : Fri May 28, 2021 12:02 pm  

It's just elitism

How many professional players have been produced that have made a career out of the sport, it doesn't matter how good they are or if they've played international rugby, who are the RFL to take career pathways away?

Reading the comments I'm cringing abit at our fans attitude where it seems it's more important rovers suffer than the actual career pathways of young rugby league players, it's all box ticking. Does anyone have the number of players produced by the city that have played professionally as that's the more important fact rather than just stating watts and Taylor