FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Contract Talks & FCs Future
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29747No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 15 200519 years24th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st May 24 12:2721st May 24 17:28LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
West Yorkshire

Re: Jordan Lane Contract Talks : Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:17 pm  
Isaiah wrote:
Cheers Seb.
Some clubs might be ok with their big backers, and other clubs might manage to get loans because they have some collateral etc:-
Our biggest asset is the fans and we need to somehow try and rally some financial support

Exactly this. Our only "assets" are player contracts still to run but in the current environment I doubt these will be worth much to sell. As you allude to the Big 4 have multimillionaire backers as do Huddersfield, Rovers, Toronto so they have a buffer we don't. Very worrying.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4664
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200222 years23rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
20th May 24 22:5320th May 24 22:53LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull F.C.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:32 pm  
Think any professional sports club outside football’s premier league will struggle for survival.

The landscape for many sports will be massively altered after all this.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3524No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 30 200221 years302nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Aug 23 15:196th Apr 22 08:24LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
North Hull
Signature
HULL FC CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2005
GRAND FINALISTS 2006
CHALLENGE CUP FINALISTS 2008
CHALLENGE CUP FINALISTS 2013
CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2016
CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2017

HKR THE PRIDE OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP

Re: Jordan Lane Contract Talks : Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:52 pm  
Mrs Barista wrote:
Exactly this. Our only "assets" are player contracts still to run but in the current environment I doubt these will be worth much to sell. As you allude to the Big 4 have multimillionaire backers as do Huddersfield, Rovers, Toronto so they have a buffer we don't. Very worrying.


Who is Rovers big backer ?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 07 200518 years30th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th May 24 18:3512th May 24 18:42LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:44 pm  
Reading Adams rant like comments on Twitter it appears that we have got the furlough money but we have applied for one of the loans available to cover other costs (no doubt such as training ground rents, loads of pre ordered kit to which we are obligated etc) but we are not being allowed to access the Government led loans by our Bank because of outstanding financial failings dating back to the Hetherington years. Without our own ground to borrow against we have few assets so, I'm told, the situation at the Club is very serious and as fans we just have to hope. Who knows, as has been the case in the past we might all have to see what we can do to help keep our wonderful Club going!

Stay safe everyone!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach708No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 03 200420 years295th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 22:0614th May 24 22:05LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Were Gateshull Est in 1865, or MADELATER ?
Signature
Hull KR = A 100% Hull Team
Hull FC = 50% Hull, 50% Gateshead

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:34 pm  
Surely the club can obtain loans secured against their “Intangible Assets”?

Or are they actually worthless after all ?
ccs 
RankPostsTeam
International Star5318
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 15 201113 years163rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Aug 22 17:5120th Aug 22 16:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:17 am  
Bombers Double Chin wrote:
Surely the club can obtain loans secured against their “Intangible Assets”?

Or are they actually worthless after all ?
Intangible assets are not worthless when clubs are in a position to buy and sell players.

The situation has changed drastically, if you hadn't noticed.


AP wrote:
The FC chairman says the club’s loan application has been refused due to historic debt despite regularly balancing the books under his ownership since acquiring the club nine years ago.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3524No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 30 200221 years302nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Aug 23 15:196th Apr 22 08:24LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
North Hull
Signature
HULL FC CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2005
GRAND FINALISTS 2006
CHALLENGE CUP FINALISTS 2008
CHALLENGE CUP FINALISTS 2013
CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2016
CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS 2017

HKR THE PRIDE OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:27 am  
I find it hard to believe the Club have never had any loans before?
We must have really been making good money until now then !
To pay rent and the ground , and players and staff wages . Day to day running costs is good Management on the Sky money ,and sponsorship, and merchandise sales !!
ccs 
RankPostsTeam
International Star5318
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 15 201113 years163rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Aug 22 17:5120th Aug 22 16:56LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:54 am  
Who's said we haven't had loans in the past? Of course we have, but the situation is different now, no real income streams, sponsors on the brink, Mr Allam probably turning the screw, and we already owe the bank plenty - that's what "making a financial loss" really means.
Zuider 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star295No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 10 201212 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th Sep 21 19:4421st Aug 21 11:48LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
SHROPSHIRE

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:13 pm  
Going back to the OP, we need players to run the reserves comp, so those not considered good enough for the first team would probably be considered for the reserves.
That said, I wonder if reserve squads will be ditched as part of cost cutting by all clubs. Its going to be very interesting and I feel some will fall by the wayside.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5826
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 01 200519 years170th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
20th May 24 18:2515th May 24 15:00LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Definately not in the Cuddle Crew

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:28 pm  
Zuider wrote:
Going back to the OP, we need players to run the reserves comp, so those not considered good enough for the first team would probably be considered for the reserves.
That said, I wonder if reserve squads will be ditched as part of cost cutting by all clubs. Its going to be very interesting and I feel some will fall by the wayside.

Reserve compy got scrapped yesterday - with future cost cutting i doubt itll be back for a while if ever
PreviousNext

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Walters
MadDogg
24
9m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1734
16m
Doro
Kevin Turvey
2
25m
10 tickets for Whitehaven game
Jemmo
1
28m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
36659
29m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
58605
30m
Rumours and signings v9
MadDogg
28457
31m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Roam Ranger
1580
41m
All Hail John Cartwright
Yippee try y
25
49m
Academy Products
Zig
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
2226
38s
Rumours and signings v9
MadDogg
28457
40s
Doro
Bully_Boxer
5
41s
Fitzgibbon
Fantastic Mr
129
49s
Fans Forum
dboy
51
56s
Todays game v Giants
Bobby Digita
65
1m
Gannon out for the rest of the season
ArthurClues
9
1m
Fans Forum
faxcar
17
1m
Amone off to NRL
micktheleyth
1
1m
MRP
Lester Bangs
17
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Doro
Kevin Turvey
2
TODAY
10 tickets for Whitehaven game
Jemmo
1
TODAY
Amone off to NRL
micktheleyth
1
TODAY
Doro
Bully_Boxer
5
TODAY
All Hail John Cartwright
Yippee try y
25
TODAY
Academy Products
Zig
6
TODAY
CATALANS MATCH TRANSFERS EXTRA COACH
Foti with th
1
TODAY
Luke Gale Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Cover
Start@1873
2
TODAY
Challenge Cup
PopTart
3
TODAY
Begging
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Season so far
bullinenemyl
4
TODAY
Gannon out for the rest of the season
ArthurClues
9
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Away
Old Man John
2
TODAY
Bottle Throwing
The Speculat
37
TODAY
Could 2009 be repeated
Bobby Digita
6
TODAY
Castleford Away
Jake the Peg
34
TODAY
Danny Walker
Fantastic Mr
14
TODAY
Tai Fighter
fez1
3
TODAY
Rowdy Roddy Tai-per
morleys_deck
5
TODAY
So What end are we in
Uncle Rico
6
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Destroy Huddersfield To Secure Wembley Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos To Meet Saints At Wembley In Womens Challenge Cup Final
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Bobby Digita
65
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Destroy Hudd..
677
Leeds Rhinos To Meet Saints At..
404
Easy Does It As Wigan Thrash H..
693
St Helens Cruise Past York Val..
640
Katherine Jenkins OBE to perfo..
1386
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
1598
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
1616
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
1641
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
1810
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
1905
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
2802
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
3044
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
2260
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
2527
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
4452
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist