Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:00 am  

fc baldy wrote:

Wasnt fussed on him either.......was a privelage to see a modern day legend but he was out of position and have seen better overseas players.

You seem to have a unhealthy obsession with me all of a sudden.I just dont rate Chase...end of.

How about Peter Sterling, he's bald?

As that was the first time I've ever quoted one of your posts (that I can recall), I can see how you must think I have an 'unhealthy obsession with you'.

I think SL needs a larger bald representation.

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:13 am  

On the salary cap description, I think it's possibly just a poorly worded effort at attempted pro rata. The amount of cap you are using is esentially the total of all the cap values of the players currently in your squad. So the clubs aren't really having all of the player's wages included on their cap, or even multiple clubs having the same player on their cap at the same time, it's only for the time they are at the club. So we don't have Watts adding £60k to our cap spend, but for the remaining months of the year we do have a player worth £60k pa on our cap, if that makes sense.

So for example, say Watts was on £60k pa at both clubs, both clubs were at maximum cap level, and O'Carroll was on the same wage. To fit Watts in we release O'Carroll, we therefore have one player with a cap value of £60k going out, and one in, but we still only paid each £30k, so the cap in total is also right. And Rovers now have £60k of cap value spare to bring someone in if they want.

I think that's how it would work, seems the most logical.

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:14 am  

Is Keith Senior doing anything these days?

He's bald.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:17 am  

Robbo4 wrote:

Surely you can spend 1.6 million over the course of the season and how you spread that out is upto you?

A club projecting to spend 1 million on wages at the start of the season surely has 600k to use however they like for the rest of the season? Or are we saying that the salary cap is actually 133k a month?

Until I saw the rules posted earlier, I assumed it was £1.6m as and when and savings could be recouped. But actually this way makes more sense.

The salary cap per minute is about £3.09. Oh, c'mon! It took me less than a minute to work it out.

Vitch makes a valid point, but that only works if you're signing a player longish term... and only matters if you're struggling to manage the cap short-term... and comes with longer-term implications.

It'd be a bit of a joke if a team bumped along in mid-table spending well under the cap, then midway through the season (which is more than midway through the year), suddenly brought in half a 3 or 4 top earners on short-term deals to smash through the play-offs. Just like when Bradford got grief for signing Morley, under the old system in 2005, actually.

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:18 am  

Somebody call the Fat Controller....this thread has been derailed!!

[Kosh]

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:20 am  

Robbo4 wrote:

So in theory a players entire seasons wage could count on several clubs salary caps? One of the RFLs more stupid rules and there are several to choose from. It kind of makes sense in the Radford example but any wages already being accounted for on another clubs salary cap should never be duplicated on another clubs salary cap, especially when said player was never paid that money by the new club.

Nope. Once a player leaves and joins another club his wages from that point on stop counting.

It's been designed to try and cover every available fiddle that a club might come up with. Maybe if the clubs could be trusted more it would be simpler.

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:22 am  

Kosh wrote:

Nope. Once a player leaves and joins another club his wages from that point on stop counting.

It's been designed to try and cover every available fiddle that a club might come up with. Maybe if the clubs could be trusted more it would be simpler.

So the club the player leaves doesn't have to count the full seasons wages but the club he joins does? That makes no sense.

[Kosh]

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:23 am  

vitch wrote:

The devils in the detail.

If Watts is going to be on 100k a year. This year his contract will say he is on 50k a year.

Correct. This is the only way around things, and it's perfectly valid as long as it's written into his contract at the point he's signed.

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:23 am  

cant you guys start another thread? salary cap one? right back on track, so who we signing today?

Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum : Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:33 am  

There's a distinct lack of bald players in Superleague.

The RFL should launch an investigation into this ASAP, it's blatant baldism that's rife within the clubs.

I read the other day about a policy Castleford have when signing youg players. They make the young player turn up with their dad, bringing along their birth certificate & dads ID. Once they confirm that it is actually ther dad, they then assess the head of the dad for baldness. If their assessment shows the dad is folically challenged, no contract for the young un. It's disgusting.