[Mild Rover]

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:22 am  

Dave K. wrote:

The recruitment of Hoy, Sutcliffe, Trueman and Dwyer vastly improves out 17, with no real losses except Mau, add to this the young players a year older, more experienced and bigger I'm feeling alot confident with impending coaching changes.

That’s the line that keeps us interested year after year. A player who has been injured for most of the year will be back and ‘like a new signing’ is another favourite.

Ending the season with a derby win was a pleasant salve but I find it hard to keep buying into those arguments. I’ve no real interest in watching the play-offs and I’d pay a fee not to have to watch another Saints-Wigan GF, if that were required. Salford-Hudds might pique my interest, tbf.

So, surely Kennedy, Opacic and Sue will offer more than Sims, Vete and Takairangi. And Jordan Abdull will be like a new signing. And the youngsters on the fringes of the squad will be a year older and better. But SKD, Linnett and Hall will also be a year older. Experience tells us we’ll lose another important player to long-term injury. And a lot of young players never ‘kick on’.

I’m somewhat optimistic. Peters and Delaney have both been willing to talk about winning. Which, after Sandercock’s red hot cracks, Chester saying we had to make sure we enjoyed the day, Peacock’s plan, Sheens wanting to play some footy and Smith wanting to entertain the fans, almost feels like a win in itself. Peters has even talked about winning trophies. I can’t make my mind up whether that is extremely ambitious or worryingly delusional. That’s the thrill of uncertainty that makes sport so compelling but which seems to be in ever shorter supply.

Edit - sorry, that’s some very Rovers-centric miserabilism for the Hull board.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:34 am  

Although it is always sad when anyone loses their jobs, the decision to remove Brett, and his assistant, along with the head of the fitness team as well, are actions which were needed, and hopefully it can help the club and it’s magnificent supporters who have had their fair sure of mediocrity and turmoil move forward to a brighter future.

Whoever AP recruits he has my full support, but to add my worthless two penny worth, out of the candidate’s who have been touted, if Madge is available, isn’t he just what Hull need, wouldn’t he have them fit, which we never seem to be, wouldn’t he instil the collective that has disappeared, and those who couldn’t keep up with his regime will fall by the wayside, he was if I remember correctly a revolutionary at Wigan, with high demands of performance and fitness, I’m probably just dreaming of this kind of appointment, but if I could choose it would be this little Aussie who could, if it is possible, change our apathetic approach to rugby league.

[Chris71]

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:42 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Mrs Barista wrote:

Never been a big fan of Smith so not sure about this appointment. Paul Cooke described him on RH last night as weird and complex or something similar.

That said he's obviously hugely experienced and last year the RL world was eulogising about his ability to galvanise a squad and deliver big improvements, which you'd say are top of our list of requirements.

He may be a bit odd, but lasted 4 years at Leeds (his choice to leave) and 8 years at Warrington (his choice to leave) so you wonder how odd he can be, strange behavior, partciculay at the end (but you have to wonder how much was Larkins fault) at Rovers, but they are a strange club.

Maybe he was just got freaked out eventually by the 6 fingers and 7 toes that side of the river .

Joking aside I must admit to being unsure about Smith for some reason even though he has a good track record, maybe it's just due to the fact that Hodgson's appointment didn't work out and the same issues remain or the way he left Rovers or that he has been at Rovers. Maybe it's that Smith doesn't to me seem to be the disciplinarian we probably need but then he does seem to be a very good man manager and gets improvements out the players he has.

Just hope and have my fingers crossed that for once we get the appointment of Head Coach and Assistant right whoever it is and they right the wrongs that are ingrained in the clubs players.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:51 am  

If true, Jason Davidson would be a fantastic appointment. Very highly thought of at Leeds and players and fans alike seem guuted he's leaving

[Chris71]

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:55 am  

Riderofthepalehorse wrote:

Although it is always sad when anyone loses their jobs, the decision to remove Brett, and his assistant, along with the head of the fitness team as well, are actions which were needed, and hopefully it can help the club and it’s magnificent supporters who have had their fair sure of mediocrity and turmoil move forward to a brighter future.

Whoever AP recruits he has my full support, but to add my worthless two penny worth, out of the candidate’s who have been touted, if Madge is available, isn’t he just what Hull need, wouldn’t he have them fit, which we never seem to be, wouldn’t he instil the collective that has disappeared, and those who couldn’t keep up with his regime will fall by the wayside, he was if I remember correctly a revolutionary at Wigan, with high demands of performance and fitness, I’m probably just dreaming of this kind of appointment, but if I could choose it would be this little Aussie who could, if it is possible, change our apathetic approach to rugby league.

Totally agree Rider, for me if it was between Tony Smith or Michael Maguire I'd probably favour Maguire.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:59 am  

The only thing I'd say is Madge was unable to turn the Tigers around. In fact they got worse.

Wests are bonkers, but I don't think we're far off them in the crazy stakes to be honest

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:08 am  

RockNRolla wrote:

If true, Jason Davidson would be a fantastic appointment. Very highly thought of at Leeds and players and fans alike seem guuted he's leaving

He would be a good signing. He trained Leeds' golden generation. Where did you hear it?

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:12 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Doesn't finish off a project? He was at Leeds 4 years and won 2 grand finals, including their first in SL history. Leeds also won the next two grand finals after he left

He then spent about 8 years at Warrington, winning 3 challenge cups, 2 LL shields abd making a few grand finals.

His time at Rovers was hit and miss, but still made the play offs for the first time in over 10 years.

There are a few things you can doubt Smith about, but you can't say he doesn't finish jobs and he has improved every club he has been at.

If he starts to improve us particularly discipline, mentally and picks players on form rather than reputation then he has done a good job.

Leeds aside, you have to look at Huddersfield. Walking away from his advisory role with the RFL and the GB role. He never saw the end game at Warrington and if I remember rightly his last season at the club was a bad one. You have to factor he took over Leeds in a better position then we are currentley in, the same with Wire.

Ive no doubt he can improve us but this isnt going to be an overnight project. People need to calm down on tbat front, it will take seasons before we would be genuinley challenging. Thats why I dont believe him comjng for 12 months is a smart move, its a waste of a year. Time the club doesnt have.

Id happily be wrong but you have to think getting within 20 points of St Helens in a game would be a vast improvement. That is where this playing group is. We cant compete with 6th or 7th let alone those higher up.

If we get Smith and he is prepared to stick arpund as head coach then we must back him as a whole from supporters down to academy. Will the fanbase still be as complimentary if we finish 8th again ? Given he is a proven head coach like you have said that has honours.

I maybe have seen too many false dawns but I have reservations which I would happily be proved wrong with.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:18 am  

I can't speak for anyone else but if Smith managed to get a fairly consistent season out of us with the team at least being in the fight every game, even finishing 8th, I'd consider that an improvement. I'm sick of starting well and then just imploding.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:29 am  

scarrie wrote:

I can't speak for anyone else but if Smith managed to get a fairly consistent season out of us with the team at least being in the fight every game, even finishing 8th, I'd consider that an improvement. I'm sick of starting well and then just imploding.

I'd be happy with us being bang average next season

If we go down, I'd like to see us go down swinging. Not roll over and get another 50/60 point defeat