Re: Hodgson : Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:15 pm  

Smith will want people in he can trust.

Rovers had a reshuffle too when Peters got announced. McGuire and Deleney are their assistants. Gene is working with the academy.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Hodgson : Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:17 pm  

Smith’s time as head coach at Rovers, I find really hard to judge. For the men in charge before him, bearing in mind the situation they walked into, I can quite easily give them a score out 10 to reflect how I view their performance.

Sandercock - 5… and a quarter
Chester - 5
Peacock - 2… largely for appointing…
Sheens - 8

For Smith though it is anywhere from 4 to 7 depending which way I turn it and how the light catches it. There’s certainly some things he said and did at Rovers that I hope he carries into the role at Hull, if he is offered it, and I’ll resent it a bit if he doesn’t. On the other hand, through a combination of circumstance and judgement he did (eventually) improve us and lay some foundations. It is so nice when we concede one try to have some hope that we won’t quickly concede another. He did fix some of the mental issues that had plagued us.

Re: Hodgson : Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:14 pm  

It might not be exactly the same TS that was at the Dobbins. Every club has a different dynamic and different approaches are needed.

At least he’s experienced enough to be able to handle it.

People also say he might clash with AP, but I reckon AP will be pleased to have someone in charge who can handle the personalities and problems.

Re: Hodgson : Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:22 pm  

Tarquin Fuego wrote:

I’ll say it now :

Next season both Brett and Adam can’t be at the Club together

There you go - 6th sense from the Tarquin barometer

However even Capt Sensible could see BH needed to leave just before halfway through this season at the very latest.

Re: Hodgson : Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:58 pm  

It's a NO for Tony Smith from me- Des Hasler may well be available. Shane Flanagan isn't coaching.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:05 am  

Keiththered wrote:

pmarrow wrote:
Parcell is a very good player, never understood Leeds letting him go. Ive never seen Litten change a game though and dont hold him in the same regard as the pther two.

He has had some influential games and also excelled in the halves when playing there due to injuries. Dwyer is a one trick pony compared to Litten. That will be why Rhinos did not offer him a contract. Fortunately you have a habit of letting us sign hookers that with a bit of nurturing turn out to be top class.

More chance of Hodgson getting his job back then Jez Litten becomming top class. I dont think Dwyer will stay beyond his contract at the club, hes just a stop gap.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:14 am  

His Bobness wrote:

Tony Smith took Rovers to 11th in his first season and then 11th in his second season. Do you have the patience to wait 2 years to see improvement? I doubt it, you'll have sacked him by then.

Honestly I strongly advise you to stay clear. When he first joined Rovers it really felt like he was doing us a favour and he loved that. He is great while everyone is giving him love and affection but he really doesn't take criticism well at all. He ended up refusing to speak firstly to the CEO and then to Danny McGuire the very man who was instrumental in bringing him to Craven Park.

As for Stanley Gene if you are going to give him a big pay rise which no doubt you are, I'd say good luck Stanley you deserve it.

We had to do something and I am very skeptical with regards to Smith. Hes always good at starting a project but very rarely sees it through. I remember when he played Senior injured in the 2005 final and wouldnt admit he was wrong to do so.

I think the success he had at KR is always blown out of proportion, he did ok but spent alot of time near the bottom. I think alot of people think his appointment will change our placing in the table immediatley and I am not so sure it will. I certainley wouldnt have us down as certs for the play off with him in charge next season. Hes never really had an immediate impact anywhere, it will take him two seasons at least IMO which is why I dont think its viable as a short term option. You cant brimg a head coach in to sing somebody elses tune.

I dont know why but cant help but think his appointment will blow up in our face.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:54 am  

bonaire wrote:

This is part of the Pearson fantasy Island thinking we have a great future based on promising younger players coming through.
How many will be good enough to hold down a regular position in S/L? Not many
In a lot of professional sports most promising kids fall by the wayside or continue to play but in lower leagues.
Look at Longstaff,he is only 20 yet from what i can see miles ahead of anything coming off the Hull fc line

Thats exactly as i see it, - fans always seem to overhype our `young guns.'
The only ones i've been impressed with are Balmforth & Litten (although tbf i haven't seen enough of some of the others)
Over the last 3 or 4 years, S.L players we've produced are 3 small forwards (Brown Fash & Lane), Scott, Wynne, & Jez Litten, - hardly inspiring!
Is there a Murphy, Pryce or Wellsby coming through? - Doubt it.
Shenton seems to be doing a great job but I suspect the Academy is a well coached, well drilled unit,with plenty of good players, but no real stars.
& you're dead right about about Longstaff, needs to be signed if possible.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:33 am  

pmarrow wrote:

More chance of Hodgson getting his job back then Jez Litten becomming top class. I dont think Dwyer will stay beyond his contract at the club, hes just a stop gap.

Take your black and white specs off for a moment. I know it’s difficult to acknowledge that a player you let go might be a success. More independent observers obviously see things in him you apparently don’t. That is of course supposing you actually see enough of him to form a reasoned opinion.

It saddens me to see that the mighty Hull FC are reduced to signing players as a stop gap. I remember when they had a plan for the future and signed players who were expected to help move that plan forward. How the mighty seem to have fallen if your assessment of Dwyer is correct.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:56 am  

Keiththered wrote:

Take your black and white specs off for a moment. I know it’s difficult to acknowledge that a player you let go might be a success. More independent observers obviously see things in him you apparently don’t. That is of course supposing you actually see enough of him to form a reasoned opinion.

It saddens me to see that the mighty Hull FC are reduced to signing players as a stop gap. I remember when they had a plan for the future and signed players who were expected to help move that plan forward. How the mighty seem to have fallen if your assessment of Dwyer is correct.

They is no black and white specs here, I call it as I see it and have no interest in if he played for us or not. He may be a good player at some point in his career but to even think he can reach the heights of Hodgson is beyond rose tinted.

We never let him go either he decided to leave which again bears no reflection on ourselves. Id also love to go to this fantasy time where we signed players for the future we sign past it players all the time.

I mean the only person being bitter here is yourself who seems to be taking a shine to a topic about our now ex coach and potential new one.