Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:41 pm  

If HTW and Dean gave to wait 3 years to play regular first team RL, they won't be at Hull.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:51 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

If HTW and Dean gave to wait 3 years to play regular first team RL, they won't be at Hull.

Why? We're will they go with all their experience? The clubs putting them full time for 2016, is that not investing in youth? Do you think that their both ready for SL?
That's the sort of attitude we don't want at the club mate, if I can't play I'm off! We need a good healthy squad & we need kids to learn their trade & not be slung in the deep end with no armbands.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:10 pm  

easthull fc fan wrote:

Why? We're will they go with all their experience? The clubs putting them full time for 2016, is that not investing in youth? Do you think that their both ready for SL?
That's the sort of attitude we don't want at the club mate, if I can't play I'm off! We need a good healthy squad & we need kids to learn their trade & not be slung in the deep end with no armbands.

Having watched the 19s a few times despite Dean being the better player this year I would say that HTW is ready for the odd game at SL next year, if we hold them back for reserve overseas players then like Connor Robinson and James Cunningham they will leave for either championship clubs or another SL club.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:22 pm  

Just looked at some players from the top teams, Liam Sutcliff, George Williams and Mark Percival are all years older than the two mentioned and all gave players around 50 games for their clubs, so they must have been give a few games when they were the same age as our young halfs.

Maybe Pearson is right about our academy.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:26 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Having watched the 19s a few times despite Dean being the better player this year I would say that HTW is ready for the odd game at SL next year, if we hold them back for reserve overseas players then like Connor Robinson and James Cunningham they will leave for either championship clubs or another SL club.

Radders & co are trying to nurture them for the future, they will get their chances, either through form (lack of in 1st choice) injury or when they are seen as ready, they are just not ready to play regular SL especially now we have a chance of relegation, it's not like we are a desperate club & need to play them, it's been a position we've struggled for for longer then I can remember, why do we want to rush it. You want 4 or 5 players who can play these roles within your squad, with the next batch coming through, so when or if sneyd & other 1st choice go, Reece & HTW take top spots with next batch in their shoes, it's hopefully going to be a big conveyor belt, through our own systems.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:35 pm  

I think we have to agree to disagree, I just hope the club agree with me and don't make this signing.

Good to have decent debate without any name calling etc mate!!!

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:45 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

I think we have to agree to disagree, I just hope the club agree with me and don't make this signing.

Good to have decent debate without any name calling etc mate!!!

I do see your points though & I agree with you but I just think them going full time for 2016 will do them good to have a preseason & get used to been with the squad with no real pressure on them it will be good for all involved, Carlos T won't be on a big wage & leons coming to an end, so we will have good balance & strength, & these lads picking up experience, because it's a big step up from 19s to first team. The competition is very healthy & we don't want other clubs exploiting these lads & knocking their confidence whilst taking 2 points from us.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:17 pm  

Personally i think the future of our club is Sneyd but he needs an experienced head along side him (for at least the next couple of years imo) and not another rookie but we do need an understudy ready to step in in the event of injury - whether this is HTW or Dean is up to the club but imo we only need the one and in the long term the rookie will then step up to full time first grade in two to three years time IF they show they have the ability at first team level and once the experienced head moves on or retires. We dont need a young kid from Oz - we need an experienced head like Sandow who all the half backs at the club can learn from

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:21 pm  

Sebasteeno wrote:

Personally i think the future of our club is Sneyd but he needs an experienced head along side him (for at least the next couple of years imo) and not another rookie but we do need an understudy ready to step in in the event of injury - whether this is HTW or Dean is up to the club but imo we only need the one and in the long term the rookie will then step up to full time first grade in two to three years time IF they show they have the ability at first team level and once the experienced head moves on or retires. We dont need a young kid from Oz - we need an experienced head like Sandow who all the half backs at the club can learn from

Pryce then.

Re: Rumours Rumours everywhere : Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:55 pm  

Think I'd rather have our young half backs around Leon Pryce learning their trade (on and off the pitch) than Sandow!
Think Dave K and Easthull FC both make good points.
Good news if HTW & RD both go full time next year.
It's just that fine balancing act between giving them enough game time to develop without putting too much pressure on them.