Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:51 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think you are right, hopefully have Litten on the bench, could sacrifice Dywer and use Cator at hooker for a spell

I'd be more tempted to go the other way and have McNamara on the bench for Dwyer.

Start with Litten, Hoy, Truman.

We need to start fast either way. If Saints get a 8-12 point lead early we've got no chance.

[Chris71]

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:54 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think you are right, hopefully have Litten on the bench, could sacrifice Dywer and use Cator at hooker for a spell

Would pretty much agree with that and whilst Dwyer can create something with his speed unfortunately it is getting outweighed by the poor reads and options he is taking which invariably costs us. If Lane is the 17 tomorrow he really needs to step up. Need the likes of Taylor, Satae, Sao, Fash & Brown if selected to have big games to help us get on top of St's and stop them gaining any momentum with Lomax. Satae especially needs to take the ball in a lot more than he usually does.

Think our biggest concern is our right edge which is and has been poor defensively and feel St's are very likely to exploit that.

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:04 am  

Steve0 wrote:

It is unfortunate, but with rising insurance costs and the threat of legal action from ex players like fozzars, Goulding etc over head injuries, I think the rfls hands are tied somewhat

The ex players don't have a leg to stand on

All rfl have to do is show plenty of clips of them dishing it out esp fozzard with that massive arm pad!

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:08 am  

Chris71 wrote:

Would pretty much agree with that and whilst Dwyer can create something with his speed unfortunately it is getting outweighed by the poor reads and options he is taking which invariably costs us. If Lane is the 17 tomorrow he really needs to step up. Need the likes of Taylor, Satae, Sao, Fash & Brown if selected to have big games to help us get on top of St's and stop them gaining any momentum with Lomax. Satae especially needs to take the ball in a lot more than he usually does.

Think our biggest concern is our right edge which is and has been poor defensively and feel St's are very likely to exploit that.

But tomorrow we're not gunna beat saints by going set for set

We need off the cuff and dwyer offers that

Leigh are an example of that throw the ball around its hard to defend against

[Chris71]

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:27 am  

Thetalentboy wrote:

But tomorrow we're not gunna beat saints by going set for set

We need off the cuff and dwyer offers that

Leigh are an example of that throw the ball around its hard to defend against

Maybe but he is and has been guilty of many poor reads that have cost us both in opportunities to score and also giving the opposition opportunities which against St's we can ill afford.

Its ok to throw the ball around but as we have seen when he was at Warrington and Leeds and more so first hand at Hull he doesn't play with any real structure at times and as others have said be it Wire, Leeds or Hull fans he's too much of a headless chicken.

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:50 am  

Not expected or expecting to win, so hopefully we will chance our arm and play off the cuff, target Hurrels side, saints Dont like teams going outwide, they like the forward battle which 99 times out of a hundred they win with ease

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:54 am  

I would play litten FB Hoy at 6. We have nothing to lose and everyone is backing Saints rightly so. But it is the CC and it's all on the day. Play with the effort we have lately and give it a real dig. All we can ask for. Before people start knocking them if we are getting beat remember that this team on paper IMO isn't a top team. Mid table. Let's be honest would Mac Tuime Fash lane Cator Houghton Etc get in any of those teams. Some are coming to the end of there career and others just arnt good enough. I do believe most teams need a Cator and a Fash in the Squad but overall we need a fresh start next year. Saying all that I will be there cheering the lads on and hoping we can put in the performance of the season. If we do then I'll be happy

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:55 am  

mwindass wrote:

I'd be more tempted to go the other way and have McNamara on the bench for Dwyer.

Start with Litten, Hoy, Truman.

We need to start fast either way. If Saints get a 8-12 point lead early we've got no chance.

I could be totally wrong but I have a feeling that McNamara is being considered for a switch to hooker

Just something that was said recently about trying to get him involved and game time.

Therefore, wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the bench and spelled at hooker?

We shall see.

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:40 am  

hull2524 wrote:

I would play litten FB Hoy at 6. We have nothing to lose and everyone is backing Saints rightly so. But it is the CC and it's all on the day. Play with the effort we have lately and give it a real dig. All we can ask for. Before people start knocking them if we are getting beat remember that this team on paper IMO isn't a top team. Mid table. Let's be honest would Mac Tuime Fash lane Cator Houghton Etc get in any of those teams. Some are coming to the end of there career and others just arnt good enough. I do believe most teams need a Cator and a Fash in the Squad but overall we need a fresh start next year. Saying all that I will be there cheering the lads on and hoping we can put in the performance of the season. If we do then I'll be happy

What I've said for ages fash gives his all

But wouldn't get in saints wigan or wire teams

Wire got rid of likes of Mike Cooper and upgraded with Paul Vaughan

People bang on about negative but if we lose tomorrow more than likely gunna be another failed season

How we gunna challenge by keeping players who wouldn't get in top teams

Re: Saints in the cup : Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:12 pm  

surprise,surprise the cheats are fully fit and ready to go.they do it every year,teams like the cheats and wigan dont give a toss wether they finish 1st or 6th,as long as they are ready for the 2 knock out trophies on offer,the main one tomorrow and the minor one end of season.you dont get rewarded for season long consistincy in our game.