Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:48 am  

FC Wembley 08 wrote:

Scum, I mean Sam, Tomkins!!

Tomkins may be a grade A tool,but I still wouldn`t mind him playing for us.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:53 am  

barton baird wrote:

Tomkins may be a grade A tool,but I still wouldn`t mind him playing for us.

I think him and his team are terrible for RL... It'll be like football if they get their way. ST is an horrible little b*****d. He's just made to look good by the protection he gets from the officials, if he played for Salford or even us he wouldn't look anywhere near as good... I just don't like him!!!

[Kosh]

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:53 am  

FC Wembley 08 wrote:

The fact is that, if it was the other way around it WOULDN'T have been given... All night it seemed a case of;

For Wigan: Look for any reason to give it.
For Hull: Look for any reason NOT to give it.

Pretty certain we've had a few of those chalked off for being a double movement, and IMO that was certainly one last night!!

I've seen tries like that given plenty of times for different teams. And worse, for that matter. I thought it was a try at full speed and didn't see anything to change my mind on the replays.

Fact is we had plenty of opportunities to win the game and failed. Quibbling over the finer points of the sliding tackle and double movement rules is irrelevant. We lost because we didn't play well enough. Simples.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:55 am  

I thought the effort was there last night but the skill wasn't and hasn't been there for a good while.
Washbrook did nothing all game, O'Meley had a poor game compared to his usual standards, stupid basic errors cost us, Thaler didn't have the best of games regarding a few knock-ons which went against us however we had 17 players in our squad last night and in reality you could say 4 or 5 had good games.
Wigan didn't really need to do anything special because we haven't done anything different in our game plan for 3 years, still predicatable and as much as I like Agar as a person, as a coach he isn't good enough for we expect at Hull and more and more fans will stop paying hard earned money whilst he is in charge, we want to be entertained and if we cant be entertaining then we can handle been predictable if we are winning our games, unfortunately predicatable and losing are not a combination I will be wasting my money on.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:59 am  

Kosh wrote:

I've seen tries like that given plenty of times for different teams. And worse, for that matter. I thought it was a try at full speed and didn't see anything to change my mind on the replays.

Fact is we had plenty of opportunities to win the game and failed. Quibbling over the finer points of the sliding tackle and double movement rules is irrelevant. We lost because we didn't play well enough. Simples.

No arguments from me on that subject.... We didn't get the rub of the green but we never seem to, you've got to play to that not make errors and don't give the officials a reason to penalise you.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:07 am  

Sam Tomkins first try looked fine imo, however we were badly done to with the Obst "try" as there were very similar incidents in the build up to some of Wigan's tries. Wigan were there for the taking be we blew it (again) with stupid errors and mistakes at vital times.

O'Meley needs a rest to recover from any injuries as does Horne, Turner looked good again (apart from his brain fart) Houghton and Washbrook were brilliant in defence and Manu is just a beast. But we let our selves down with constent poor decision making and a lack of organisation.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:36 am  

Black and white legend wrote:

Tomkins first try IMO was a double movement
Obst disallowed try Wigan player fell off the tackle
Richards second try markers not standing square at play the ball- should have been Hull penalty

General performance od Thaler/Ganson awful

No way was it a double mvement, absolute quality try from a truely class player.

Was a penalty for me, think one of the comentators mentioned that an attacking player loitering in the defensive line is a penalty.

Cant remember the Richards try you have mentioned.

As for Thaler, was poor for both teams!!!

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:51 am  

Phelps is an average player in an average team.
Not the sort of player who will help you win trophies & kick onto the next level.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:31 pm  

FC Wembley 08 wrote:

I think him and his team are terrible for RL... It'll be like football if they get their way. ST is an horrible little b*****d. He's just made to look good by the protection he gets from the officials, if he played for Salford or even us he wouldn't look anywhere near as good... I just don't like him!!!

Grow up, díckhead.

Re: Major talking points : Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:45 pm  

Smiggs wrote:

It was a try that's why it was awarded.

So ever try that's been awarded in the history of the game was clear cut was it? No possibility of a mistake from the officials?

If your answer is "yes" then there is no point in talking to you.
If your answer is "no" then this quoted post is completely useless.