Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 10:13 am  

So. Miloudi has no case to answer, which helps.

If Kelly does play can line up with:

Shaul
Miloudi
Scott
Logan
Faraimo
Connor
Kelly

Which actually isn't too bad.

If Kelly doesn't make it then the choices become a bit more tricky. Do you shift Miloudi to 6 and ask Yeaman to put his hand up again, or play Hadley at centre again? Do you play one of Westerman, Washbrook or Hadley at 6? Do you get Litten involved? He played SH for England Academy but we seem to see him as an out and out hooker.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 11:42 am  

… Connor must be a doubt at this stage if he really has damaged his hamstring.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 12:46 pm  

Kelly be ready for Wigan, I wouldn't risk Connor if any doubt don't want to lose him for longer.

Shaul
Faraimo
Scott
Hadley
Logan
Miloudi
Litten or Connor

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 1:34 pm  

Would rather have Sanderson on the wing with Logan centre than play Hadley who would be far more effective elsewhere. Putting Hadley there is suicide, however it's better than putting Yeaman there which IF it did happen would be another slap in the face for the younger players and simply another tactical error in judgment by Radford. Instead of potentially putting Sanderson in on debut against the top team he could have had a couple of games already with Miloudi being tried out at 6 a few times but that isn't the case.

As it happens I thought Harris was well below par against Warrington and a bit overawed/lost his way somewhat at times, so not such a bad thing against Saints that he's not playing as I reckon he's not ready for such a big occasion just yet.

Whatever team we put out we are always in with a shout, I simply don't want players risked for the sake of getting a few points closer in the match at potentially losing them for even more games in the league. If there's even a slight doubt, and even if that means we give a debut to a player, I'd rather go that route.

[Chris71]

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 1:56 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

As it happens I thought Harris was well below par against Warrington and a bit overawed/lost his way somewhat at times, so not such a bad thing against Saints that he's not playing as I reckon he's not ready for such a big occasion just yet.

And that is exactly why Radford asked Yeaman to help the team out by playing because as good as the young players are you still need a degree of experience out on the field to help guide the young players through the 80mins. To have one or two come in to a settled first team is one thing but to have a fringe side out with Shaul as the only recognised experienced back plus missing the experienced half backs putting too many young players would do more harm to them as players.

Whilst they are promising youngsters they still lack experience at this level and it would be wrong to put them out there without sufficient experience alongside them.

I trust the coaching team to do the right thing by the young players as they have done from day.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 2:02 pm  

Sanderson cannot play because of cap.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 2:20 pm  

Ben Thaler is ref on Sunday.

[Chris71]

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 2:30 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Ben Thaler is ref on Sunday.

The better of the current crop of poor officials under Ganson, quite how he is still employed by the RFL just shows the level of incompetence within the RFL.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 2:57 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Would rather have Sanderson on the wing with Logan centre than play Hadley who would be far more effective elsewhere. Putting Hadley there is suicide, however it's better than putting Yeaman there which IF it did happen would be another slap in the face for the younger players and simply another tactical error in judgment by Radford. Instead of potentially putting Sanderson in on debut against the top team he could have had a couple of games already with Miloudi being tried out at 6 a few times but that isn't the case.

As it happens I thought Harris was well below par against Warrington and a bit overawed/lost his way somewhat at times, so not such a bad thing against Saints that he's not playing as I reckon he's not ready for such a big occasion just yet.

Whatever team we put out we are always in with a shout, I simply don't want players risked for the sake of getting a few points closer in the match at potentially losing them for even more games in the league. If there's even a slight doubt, and even if that means we give a debut to a player, I'd rather go that route.

Sanderson is cup tied. He played and scored against Newcastle in an earlier round. Hence why I didn't mention him.

Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss? : Tue May 29, 2018 2:59 pm  

Ellam wrote:

Sanderson cannot play because of cap.

Do you know that for sure?

Based on my understanding of the salary cap I would be surprised if he counts towards it.