: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:59 am  

Suzie wrote:

Said exactly the same. You could tell the way the game was going very early on, I think they thought it would be a walk in the park and at any stage they could pull it back.

Every player had a off day so I'm not just having a go at a couple but Moa wouldn't be anywhere near my team. He was 3rd man in on every tackle and is extremley lazy imo. I also want our coach to have a word with Thorman and quickly because he chooses to kick the ball rather than go through hands to many time for me. The last play when he kicked it on the 2nd with four tackles remaining said it all for me.

I disagree there, I felt that Moa going in to help his teammates in a tackle showed he was making an effort, rather than just stand back and watching.

I agree with what people say about his lack of fitness and lack of game time messing up the interchanges, but i do honestly think he is trying.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:10 pm  

Hall
Calderwood
G.horne
Yeaman
Briscoe
R.horne
Thorman
Dowes
Berrigan
King
Radford
Tickle
Washbrook

Thackray
Houghton
Cusack
Manu

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:13 pm  

Kosh wrote:

With the right attitude and approach, so was yesterday's.

And therein lies the problem.

Yup, the last 3 games could all have been different but imo the Cas and Salford games were down to the player and players only.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:23 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Yup, the last 3 games could all have been different but imo the Cas and Salford games were down to the player and players only.

I disagree as Salfords pack is a good unit in defence IMO and their main weakness is their flanks however we played the type of game Salford would have wanted and i think the blame in that regard rests on Agars shoulders.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:24 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

I was livid when he did that. It's the mark of a player with no confidence in his ball handling skills and exactly the sort of thing TL was getting criticised for. On top of that it was a crap kick and we were lucky to get a repeat set out of it. Didn't he do a similar kick in the first half when nobody was expecting him to kick? How are the backs supposed to run from deep when they have no idea if the ball is going to go through hands or not?

When Thorman signed I thought ok, although he's NOT a SH he does have a reasonably good kicking game and he'll do a job for us.
He had very good kicking game at Headingly but has steadily declined in all aspects of his game into mediocrity now.
I feel he thinks he's in the comfort zone on selection, TL is proving a lot of his doubters wrong as back row interchange, but he will lose his spot once Lauaki gets here (and he will), unfortunately TL wasn't the answer last season at 7.
Whats wrong with Houghton, is he injured? if push came to shove would it be unrealistic to give him a go at 7? afterall he did sign as a 7 from East Hull and didn't he get honours in that position, he has a good kick on him, is sound in defence, good hands and knows the job.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:25 pm  

The Hollywood Frasier wrote:

I disagree as Salfords pack is a good unit in defence IMO and their main weakness is their flanks however we played the type of game Salford would have wanted and i think the blame in that regard rests on Agars shoulders.

Maybe so but the players still showed a lack of effort and enthusiasm, a bit more in both departments would have won us the game.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:27 pm  

me 'n' our kid wrote:

When Thorman signed I thought ok, although he's NOT a SH he does have a reasonably good kicking game and he'll do a job for us.
He had very good kicking game at Headingly but has steadily declined in all aspects of his game into mediocrity now.
I feel he thinks he's in the comfort zone on selection, TL is proving a lot of his doubters wrong as back row interchange, but he will lose his spot once Lauaki gets here (and he will), unfortunately TL wasn't the answer last season at 7.
Whats wrong with Houghton, is he injured? if push came to shove would it be unrealistic to give him a go at 7? afterall he did sign as a 7 from East Hull and didn't he get honours in that position, he has a good kick on him, is sound in defence, good hands and knows the job.

Would play Tommy Lee at 7 before Houghton.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:35 pm  

The Hollywood Frasier wrote:

I disagree as Salfords pack is a good unit in defence IMO and their main weakness is their flanks however we played the type of game Salford would have wanted and i think the blame in that regard rests on Agars shoulders.

I disagree. They've conceeded more than double the points we have and are conceeding an average of 38 points a game. They are by far the worst defensive team in the league. Even with a poor game plan etc we should have scored more points than that and they only score an average of 15 points a game so our defence should have been much better as well.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:38 pm  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Would play Tommy Lee at 7 before Houghton.

You're kidding right?????

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:39 pm  

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Would play Tommy Lee at 7 before Houghton.

Yes please Mr Agar/Sharp!