Re: Hodgson : Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:20 pm  

hull2524 wrote:

Well sorry guys but he ain't going Anywhere

Are you speaking metaphorically?

Re: Hodgson : Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:24 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

20 years ago nearly with loads of money and a golden generation emerging. What Radford did at Hull is more impressive, in many ways. You can chuck in Smith’s time at Wire and the scales are still not far off balanced.

After 25+ years of SL how do we define success and failure? I’d say there is a huge, possibly now unbridgeable, gulf between how it is defined by small number of top SL clubs and the rest. 10 years ago, I could convince myself that if another club got this or that just right they could maybe join the elite or displace one of them. Now, it feels really unlikely. We’re left hoping for a Leicester City 15-16, one amazing year, scenario. It’s by no means unique to SL - all the big football leagues in Europe have massive issues with competitive imbalance. But it’s understood and acknowledged. In RL people don’t seem to have come to terms with it and spout all sorts of (imo) rubbish about the salary cap or bringing through kids to keep it a strange mystery.

Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.

Re: Hodgson : Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:47 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.

There's a striking difference between the Grand Final and Challenge Cup Final. Only three Grand Final winners in sixteen years yet the Challenge Cup has had six different winners in six seasons and six finalists in the last three.

Re: Hodgson : Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:58 pm  

Smiggs wrote:

Are you speaking metaphorically?

No figuratively speaking . Thought you would have known that

[Mild Rover]

Re: Hodgson : Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:01 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.

I think RL needs to improve competitive balance as a priority.

In SL we know who the favourites will be for the 2027 season already… if we keep the same general format. In the Championship the standard varies massively. Leigh scored 100 against mid-table York today. Internationally, England have don’t beat Australia and France don’t beat England.

It requires some imagination and probably some very difficult decisions.

Re: Hodgson : Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:12 am  

https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1561 ... 31pZQ&s=19 Would Dennis Betts be worth a punt as an assistant or head of rugby? This doesn't mean I want it to happen Just an idea. He'll know Brett from Widnes

https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1561 ... 31pZQ&s=19 Would Dennis Betts be worth a punt as an assistant or head of rugby? This doesn't mean I want it to happen Just an idea. He'll know Brett from Widnes

[Chris71]

Re: Hodgson : Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:36 am  

mwindass wrote:

https://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1561671302762708992?t=sxajYVDfhEbUIvw8r31pZQ&s=19

Would Dennis Betts be worth a punt as an assistant or head of rugby?

This doesn't mean I want it to happen Just an idea.

He'll know Brett from Widnes

Its a no from me, as great a player as Betts was and the success he had as a player at Wigan its not transitioned in to him being a Head Coach with a very good track record for success.

Re: Hodgson : Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:47 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Been saying similar for years. If you look at all the SL Grand Finals there's a pretty small percentage of participants that aren't the Big 3 (Saints, Wigan, Leeds) since the demise of Bradford. You need cash for first team and a strong pipeline/ infrastructure. Outside of these and Warrington there's not enough cash for clubs to afford both.

I don't think the amount of teams making the Grand Final has been too bad, in the last decade Saints, Wigan, Catalans, Salford, Warrington, Leeds and Cas have been there which is just over half the league and the finals themselves have been good games, its just Saints have started to dominate the last few years

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:09 pm  

Let's say he goes this week, who do you bring in.

First choice for has to be Wane.

I wouldn't mind Tony Smith to steady the ship for a year, then move to DOR and help bring in his successor.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:11 pm  

I'd love to see Wane. Think it would be the wake up call that a few players badly need.
As you say I think Tony Smith would do well with us.

Michael Maguire's record in the NRL looks poor (I don't know enough about the NRL to know if there's any other circumstances involved in that) but he did well previously in Super League. He'd surely be better than what he have now.