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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:39 am  
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Constantly spot on mate.

Players like fash are essential in a salary cap sport. Low hit on cap and you know exactly what you get from them. In an ideal world he’s the sort of player you want as a back up but no one can say he has let us down one bit over the last few seasons.

To some extent I’d even consider giving Houghton and Taylor 1 year deals if the talent isn’t out there. Both had testimonies so their cap cost is reduced I believe. Both have had good seasons compared to majority of our squad. It’s just about getting the right deal from them. Reductions in what they’re on now. Could be massive in a salary cap sport. Similar with griffin, if cheap and no obvious replacements I’d give him another year.

Dwyer is too loose for me I think. Great going forward sometimes but is a liability in defence and has the brain farts where he scoots on 5th (like he did against hudds).

For me, a fit Savelio is a no brainer but TS seems to disagree. We’d need a top replacement because lane has offered nothing.


Cap dispensations are only relevant if you want to pay more and stretch the cap. If Pearson wants to pay down the COVID loans, increasing the wage budget is… a risk. But every choice in life carries risk. If he’s looking for any sort of loan forbearance, then it’d seem impolitic.

If Hull re-sign Taylor and Houghton, I’d feel kind of obligated to post a picture of Hugo Weaving in shades. Maybe one of them on an inexpensive deal to support the kids in reserve games and play first team as and when needed, sort of like we planned to use Keinhorst this year. Both though?

I had a look at Smith’s recruitment with us for 2020 (first year but threat of relegation impeded) and 2021 (free from that threat) and it was less radical than by memory had made it. My imperfect recall had a big move towards depth in 2020 then a pivot towards quality in 2021 but it was less dramatic than I remembered it, and the turnover of players not quite as high. I’d forgotten about Dan Murray, so there was quite a bit of movement, but not really tear it up and start again.

So, while I think ‘what will Hull do to rebuild?’ is an interesting question, I suspect it might be less than has been imagined - including by me and I was never drinking Tarquin’s kool-aid.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:44 am  
Danny Houghton had a good game last time out, but for me, translating that into another year contract is so far beyond common sense.

That one performance aside, he has been at best “meh” for around 4 seasons. Now there are reasons for this, playing all of every game possible in that time period a significant one.

However, for me he isn’t deserving of his current contract (self-triggered, remember), so giving him another one in my opinion would be full on lunacy. Danny’s legacy with Hull FC is set, but Tackle 52 was going on seven years ago…

The reason we are where we are is largely due to misplaced loyalty during signing and retention since 2017; hopefully this is now behind us, and we can begin a long overdue and desperately needed rebuild.

Taylor on the other hand has shown for most of this season that, if he can stay fit and motivated, he can provide solid minutes at prop if on a contract that financially works for us. A few too many “ifs” in that sentence, but there is an option there, as we have no true potential replacement in the club right now - whereas for Houghton, we do.

I know that sentiment is an essential part of supporting a team, but for the club it needs to be dispensed with completely.

I now await the “Houghton to join the coaching staff” posts…
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:55 am  
Think it's time Houghton retire, my only worry is night then need two hookers depending on what happens with Balmforth and Dywer.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:16 am  
Hopefully next year Balmforth if still with us will start to get some game time. I believe he's 20 next year so if good enough should be around the squad. IMO think he will be with us
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:34 pm  
Mental to suggest Houghton and Taylor getting new deals. Both past it a while ago. Houghton last week aside, looked like he’s gone at least one season too far. And Taylor, when he’s actually played, has been bang average since 2019.

Hope the club don’t fall into the trap of extending deals based on performances this season, rather than what they’ve done over the course of their whole contract. Don’t care whether it’s on reduced money or not, they’ve not been good enough and they aren’t getting any better.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:10 pm  
Rumours on the Facebook forum that Evans has been released, overseas prop/second rower to come in?
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:13 pm  
Just seen the same thing about Evans. Hope it's true
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:26 pm  
Wouldn't be that bothered if we didn't sign a replacement immediately. We've got Fash, Taylor, Sao, Satae with Brown and Gardiner too.

Probably realised he isn't getting a new deal and decided to go home early.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:58 pm  
Seen a few mention Makatoa from Parra. Don't know how much is in it though
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:28 pm  
Yup it looks like he will be going back to Oz this week
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