Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:25 pm  

Wilde 3 wrote:

I wouldn't take him back either. He has had a few injuries with Newcastle and his style of play, and what we would be bringing him over to do, doesn't lend well to playing well into your 30's

It could well just be "paper talk", the article says (now I've read it properly!),that he's one of a number of players FC are talking to.

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:48 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

I would have Green as he is solid and the other two offer more impact, particularity against tiring defences.

Taylor and Watts would be my starting props unless injured or drop in form, think Bowden some way in front of Green for starting spot imo

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:27 pm  

Tinkerman23 wrote:

Taylor and Watts would be my starting props unless injured or drop in form, think Bowden some way in front of Green for starting spot imo

I can see what you are saying, but think if we signed Paea, Watts would be moved to LF or backrow.

And think Bowden is better off the bench, but would be happy to see any of props start.

Green has played well this year (Was it the Wigan game he had a great game?), but his season has been disrupted by injuries.

[Chris71]

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:34 pm  

hullandbroncos wrote:

I was a big fan of Mickey but personally wouldn't take him back . 32 next year suspect injury record and guessing decent wage to get him back over here .

Wilde 3 wrote:

I wouldn't take him back either. He has had a few injuries with Newcastle and his style of play, and what we would be bringing him over to do, doesn't lend well to playing well into your 30's

I'm another who was a big fan of Paea but think at 32 and his injury record it wouldn't be a great move for us. Then again if LR & MT think he will do a job for us then we have to trust them.

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:22 pm  

Tinkerman23 wrote:

Whats your reasoning behind Green having a starting spot, not been argumentative, a genuine question

Pretty much what Dave said, Green is solid. Personally I prefer less Bowden out of the two as I think he has more to his game which would benefit us more off the bench imo.
To be fair if it was the other way round I still wouldn't kick up a fuss, as I think we have a great set of forwards.

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:48 pm  

I liked Micky when he was here but would not want him back due to age/injuries. Gaz Ellis is a perfect example of age/injury problems and he is a far better and fitter player than Micky. Personally I would play Manu at loose man and move Griffin to wing.
Recruit a young prop/2nd rower as cover. Lots of our younger players will be better next year for their experiences this year.

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:37 pm  

I wish we'd signed ikahihifo. Awesome player and we should be looking for a similar type of player IMO. I can see paea missing more games than he plays

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:03 pm  

A unknown superstar wrote:

Pretty much what Dave said, Green is solid. Personally I prefer less Bowden out of the two as I think he has more to his game which would benefit us more off the bench imo.
To be fair if it was the other way round I still wouldn't kick up a fuss, as I think we have a great set of forwards.

I'll be honest, and I really hate to say it, because he seems like a really nice guy, but I just dont think Green will ever been anything but average , frustrates the life out of me , hes a beast psychically, but just doesnt punch his wait , hes still young enough to improve , just cant see him ever offering much more than average, and if we did sign micky , think green would struggle to make the 17.

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:35 pm  

And you can bet your bottom dollar Paea would be on vastly more than Green but wouldn't offer us that much more if anything. good player in the past but not now, really not now. This stunts the development of the likes of Fash and Matongo for me and IF we are to bring back Hadley I'd rather we went with the personnel that we already have than sign an over the hill aussie on big wages!

I don't agree that Green is 'average', he's more than a good solid squad player that deserves his place in the starting XVII most games, you can't expect every single player to be England international level (which is basically what you're wanting from him. he can do long minutes and is more than capable, as others have said, I'd have him on from the start and have others with more impact coming on in the last 15-20 mins.

Re: Recruitment and retention : Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:48 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

And you can bet your bottom dollar Paea would be on vastly more than Green but wouldn't offer us that much more if anything. good player in the past but not now, really not now. This stunts the development of the likes of Fash and Matongo for me and IF we are to bring back Hadley I'd rather we went with the personnel that we already have than sign an over the hill aussie on big wages!

I don't agree that Green is 'average', he's more than a good solid squad player that deserves his place in the starting XVII most games, you can't expect every single player to be England international level (which is basically what you're wanting from him. he can do long minutes and is more than capable, as others have said, I'd have him on from the start and have others with more impact coming on in the last 15-20 mins.

Fair points and I dont strongly disagree, and im not saying im massively excited of the prospect of signing paea , but if we did go down that route, from a fully fit squad I think green woukd struggle to make the 17 . I dont see how people think green deserves a starting spot despite who we sign , I dont think is form or ability deserve it to be honest , to many average games for me , id much prefer a bowden of late, just needs the consistency . And I agree , you cant have a team of internationals, green a is a good back up , bench player to me. I like to see our strongest front row from the start , and I dont think green will ever be that for us