Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 7:13 pm  

Credit where credit is due,the team is playing well....only concern is we cant seem to finish a team off,As for Agars future....still isnt the coach to take us to the next level.

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 7:13 pm  

Young Faithfull wrote:

There no pleasing some people mate as you say its the players doing well when we win but the coaches fault when we lose, he just cant fecking win.

Things are better for the time being but improvement is required on all fronts. We need to improve on last season's finish for me and the start has made that pretty difficult. I'm impressed the way the squad has stuck together through the tough start but we'll need to improve further if we're to meet my measure of improvement.

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 7:30 pm  

Staffs FC wrote:

Things are better for the time being but improvement is required on all fronts. We need to improve on last season's finish for me and the start has made that pretty difficult. I'm impressed the way the squad has stuck together through the tough start but we'll need to improve further if we're to meet my measure of improvement.

you could say that about any of the teams in superleague really

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 7:59 pm  

when we do well its down to the players, when we do badly its always RA, unbelievable .......

the fact is we are slowly gaining momentum heading towards the part of the season that really matters, yes we will loose games again as will all clubs however for now we are playing decent rugby, defending well and taking the training paddock onto the game time grass... and finally doing it when it matters.
we have recruited excellent players in Phelps, Gleeson and obst and finally when we have a specialized full back, a second world class centre and a half that can dictate we are moving forwards...

hopefully another win at Widnes and then onto a period of matches we could push potentially push out=rselves up another two or three places and then be real contenders going into the latter part of the season..

but i guess the same sheep will say "so we beat Oldham, Salford etc etc what does that prove"

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 8:19 pm  

Whether winning or losing it is usually a mixture of players and coach to blame, but just like in the media it is rarely the players who take the brunt of the blame when things go wrong and it is rarely the coach who gets all the plaudits when things go right.

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 8:23 pm  

hullbg wrote:

Whether winning or losing it is usually a mixture of players and coach to blame, but just like in the media it is rarely the players who take the brunt of the blame when things go wrong and it is rarely the coach who gets all the plaudits when things go right.

Toyally agree, what galls me is the same sheep bleeting the same tune even when were on a winning run for a while , to be honest I still giggle at those who found things to complain about after the Warrington game, sure you see my point also!
at present things are going well and were entering a period when we are not facing any of the so called big hitters which could see us consolidate some form before we face one of the heavy mob again which can only be a good thing if we can take so decent pointage from the coming 6 at least!
however someone said a wee while ago that SL points dont matter????? I disagree totally because to me that is ALL that matters...

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 9:02 pm  

ICECREAMMAN wrote:

when we do well its down to the players, when we do badly its always RA, unbelievable .......

the fact is we are slowly gaining momentum heading towards the part of the season that really matters, yes we will loose games again as will all clubs however for now we are playing decent rugby, defending well and taking the training paddock onto the game time grass... and finally doing it when it matters.
we have recruited excellent players in Phelps, Gleeson and obst and finally when we have a specialized full back, a second world class centre and a half that can dictate we are moving forwards...

hopefully another win at Widnes and then onto a period of matches we could push potentially push out=rselves up another two or three places and then be real contenders going into the latter part of the season..

but i guess the same sheep will say "so we beat Oldham, Salford etc etc what does that prove"

it proves exactly nothing, take your glasses off, weve won nothing yet, playing better ill admit, but until we do this to the big teams on a regular basis, and have a good run in the play off, im afraid i wont change my mind about the coach, he (IMO) just isnt the coach to take us to that next level

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 9:09 pm  

ICECREAMMAN wrote:

Toyally agree, what galls me is the same sheep bleeting the same tune even when were on a winning run for a while , to be honest I still giggle at those who found things to complain about after the Warrington game, sure you see my point also!
at present things are going well and were entering a period when we are not facing any of the so called big hitters which could see us consolidate some form before we face one of the heavy mob again which can only be a good thing if we can take so decent pointage from the coming 6 at least!
however someone said a wee while ago that SL points dont matter????? I disagree totally because to me that is ALL that matters...

same could be said about those "sheep" who bleet on about all things are great in the FC camp!!
Things are better that the beginning of the season, but they couldnt have got any worse, lets hope we keep the form up, i wont be complaining if we do, but ill still be hoping for a new coach
Why do you feel the need to be patronizing to fans who dont agree with your views?

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 10:17 pm  

i think that if you look at our recent form we are moving in the right direction. whether this is down to the coaching or the players i think we as supporters should look positive to the future. i think if you look back to the derby longy had a great kicking game , and he nailed rovers left wing time and time again. only last ditch tackles stopped hull gaining a bigger win. so my point is if you have a class no7 on the pitch week in week out you are going to move in the right direction with the rest of the squad hull have. also if fitz decides to call it a day at the end of the season that will be a massive void to fill. so i hope hulls recent form continues, onwards and upwards. so mr agar my point is , please sign us a class no7 who can put the minutes on the pitch. no knocking longy, but he is entering the twilight of his career. heres looking forward to a great second half to the season. come on you hullllll !!!!!!!!!

Re: Agar Out! : Fri May 20, 2011 10:31 pm  

Staffs FC wrote:

Things are better for the time being but improvement is required on all fronts. We need to improve on last season's finish for me and the start has made that pretty difficult. I'm impressed the way the squad has stuck together through the tough start but we'll need to improve further if we're to meet my measure of improvement.

Yet we are one win away from 6th,with half the season to go! We could jump to 6th next week depending on results (i admit unlikely,but possibly)

Hull v Huddersfield
Castleford v Harlequins,
Wakefield v Catalan Dragons,

6 Castleford 13 7 1 5 337 328 15
7 Catalan Dr 14 7 1 6 292 305 15
8 Hull 14 6 1 7 328 308 13