Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:33 am  

Bombed Out wrote:

I've not been impressed with Hastings in the Newcastle games I've seen.
If you're ripping it up at NRL level then you just don't fall out of favour.
His signature would not inspire me to renew my pass.

Like Newcastle he has been very hot and miss, think its more of a personality class with O Brien, no way are Gamble or Cogger better than Hastings.

Despite been dropped, hasn't sulked and been playing really well in the reserve grade.

For both his teams in super league he has been excellent.

I can't see how we would get a better halfback

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:33 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Yes I agree, would quite like Asi, but he he hardly the the marquee halfback that has been mentioned and feels like a step down from Lam, wouldn't exactly gets the floating fans to buy passes next year.

For example if we were going to give Lam 300k, and Asi is 100k, then I would want the rest investing too. With news coming out that Sao and Carlos won't be on the quota, that gives us another couple of spots, and I would be targeting another forward

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:36 am  

Irregs#16 wrote: For example if we were going to give Lam 300k, and Asi is 100k, then I would want the rest investing too. With news coming out that Sao and Carlos won't be on the quota, that gives us another couple of spots, and I would be targeting another forward It will be 2026, before the new Quota Rule starts:- https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 15-9496495

Irregs#16 wrote: For example if we were going to give Lam 300k, and Asi is 100k, then I would want the rest investing too. With news coming out that Sao and Carlos won't be on the quota, that gives us another couple of spots, and I would be targeting another forward It will be 2026, before the new Quota Rule starts:- https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 15-9496495

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:39 am  

I don't like this new rule personally, think 7 is plenty.

Not really sure on the thinking, will just create more of a block for young players.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:47 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Like Newcastle he has been very hot and miss, think its more of a personality class with O Brien, no way are Gamble or Cogger better than Hastings.

Despite been dropped, hasn't sulked and been playing really well in the reserve grade.

For both his teams in super league he has been excellent.

I can't see how we would get a better halfback

In SL he was a young hungry Aussie half desperate to get back to the NRL.
West's gave him a chance but if I'm correct let him go to Newcastle mid contract. He's now out of favour again, not the signing I'd be impressed with, similar to a pointless Cust signing.
I'd rather sign another young Aussie half with a point to prove and not an ageing half on good money that just doesn't seem to cut it in the NRL

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:50 am  

Bombed Out wrote:

In SL he was a young hungry Aussie half desperate to get back to the NRL.
West's gave him a chance but if I'm correct let him go to Newcastle mid contract. He's now out of favour again, not the signing I'd be impressed with, similar to a pointless Customer signing.
I'd rather sign another young Aussie half with a point to prove and not an ageing half onn good money that just doesn't seem to cut it in the NRL

Can see your point, he left mid contract as he didn't get on with Bateman from his Wigan days, only be 29 next season.

Issue with signing young promising players like we found out with Clifford is they might be here for a short time if they plsy well.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:56 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Can see your point, he left mid contract as he didn't get on with Bateman from his Wigan days, only be 29 next season.

Issue with signing young promising players like we found out with Clifford is they might be here for a short time if they plsy well.

I'd rather take a chance on the promising youngster than pay and ageing Aussie half just over here for a pay day (ie Frawley) because they're not good enough to have the longevity of a career in the NRL

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:02 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I don't like this new rule personally, think 7 is plenty.

Not really sure on the thinking, will just create more of a block for young players.

I made that point a few weeks ago when it was first mooted but I just can't believe how short-sighted it is.

Rules like this make me question if I want to carry on supporting the game not just Hull but in general.

So theoretically any team could field an unlimited amount of non fed players as long as they meet the criteria. 7 is to many as it stands. What's the point in developing young talent when you can take the easy option and fill your squad with average, aging overseas players.

I despair. Who the feck makes these decisions.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:48 am  

Irregs#16 wrote:

For example if we were going to give Lam 300k, and Asi is 100k, then I would want the rest investing too.

Part of the thinking with Lam might have been that it could have partly paid for itself by improving retention of season pass holders. There aren’t many players of that type available, which is why Lam was so attractive to Myler. There’s maybe a case that the difference between what Hull are paying trueman/would pay Asi and what was offered to Lam would be better spent on adding some much needed depth - but that doesn’t sell tickets so well, up front at least.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:00 am  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

I made that point a few weeks ago when it was first mooted but I just can't believe how short-sighted it is.

Rules like this make me question if I want to carry on supporting the game not just Hull but in general.

So theoretically any team could field an unlimited amount of non fed players as long as they meet the criteria. 7 is to many as it stands. What's the point in developing young talent when you can take the easy option and fill your squad with average, aging overseas players.

I despair. Who the feck makes these decisions.

There are few natural incentives for most SL clubs to invest heavily in player development, hence the need for rules to encourage it if we’re determined to have a SL club-centric approach. It just feels to me like trying to push water uphill. It’s tough to fight the market. Sometimes, if something is really important, it is better to centralise responsibility rather than skew behaviours of individual (especially competing) organisations.