[Mild Rover]

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:16 pm  

Rocknrolla69er wrote: I'm staying positive, didn't the Jones rumours get dismissed and I'm hoping no news in the Jones scenario is good news. Kelly and Ratu can be replaced we have a Fonua and hopefully Connor partnership to look forward too. I'm sure the over seas guys will want to still have their over seas experiance and honour their contracts, I can't see mass contract cancellations I don't get why they would, none have in other sports........ Once the footy a done n dusted then rugby can get on with getting games played, and there's a £16m fund to compensate clubs for any financial losses incurred by playing games behind closed doors too much doom n gloom for me when theirs logical solutions The £16 million is in the form of loans to save clubs from going under, as I understand it. Sky money will be cut by 17% next year according to this: https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-face-fina ... t-in-2021/ Sponsorship will be down in 2021, it is close to certain. Personal finances will be squeezed for many and ongoing uncertainty and fear relating to the virus will likely depress pass sales. There’s going to have to be some major belt tightening or big deficits run up across the game.

Rocknrolla69er wrote: I'm staying positive, didn't the Jones rumours get dismissed and I'm hoping no news in the Jones scenario is good news. Kelly and Ratu can be replaced we have a Fonua and hopefully Connor partnership to look forward too. I'm sure the over seas guys will want to still have their over seas experiance and honour their contracts, I can't see mass contract cancellations I don't get why they would, none have in other sports........ Once the footy a done n dusted then rugby can get on with getting games played, and there's a £16m fund to compensate clubs for any financial losses incurred by playing games behind closed doors too much doom n gloom for me when theirs logical solutions The £16 million is in the form of loans to save clubs from going under, as I understand it. Sky money will be cut by 17% next year according to this: https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-face-fina ... t-in-2021/ Sponsorship will be down in 2021, it is close to certain. Personal finances will be squeezed for many and ongoing uncertainty and fear relating to the virus will likely depress pass sales. There’s going to have to be some major belt tightening or big deficits run up across the game.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:36 pm  

Mild Rover wrote: The £16 million is in the form of loans to save clubs from going under, as I understand it. Sky money will be cut by 17% next year according to this: https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-face-fina ... t-in-2021/ Sponsorship will be down in 2021, it is close to certain. Personal finances will be squeezed for many and ongoing uncertainty and fear relating to the virus will likely depress pass sales. There’s going to have to be some major belt tightening or big deficits run up across the game. Indeed, especially for clubs without rich benefactor chairmen like FC. Those being a bit sniffy about us offering deals to England Knights players are in for a rude awakening / reality check.

Mild Rover wrote: The £16 million is in the form of loans to save clubs from going under, as I understand it. Sky money will be cut by 17% next year according to this: https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-face-fina ... t-in-2021/ Sponsorship will be down in 2021, it is close to certain. Personal finances will be squeezed for many and ongoing uncertainty and fear relating to the virus will likely depress pass sales. There’s going to have to be some major belt tightening or big deficits run up across the game. Indeed, especially for clubs without rich benefactor chairmen like FC. Those being a bit sniffy about us offering deals to England Knights players are in for a rude awakening / reality check.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:38 pm  

Mild Rover wrote: The £16 million is in the form of loans to save clubs from going under, as I understand it. Sky money will be cut by 17% next year according to this: https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-face-fina ... t-in-2021/ Sponsorship will be down in 2021, it is close to certain. Personal finances will be squeezed for many and ongoing uncertainty and fear relating to the virus will likely depress pass sales. There’s going to have to be some major belt tightening or big deficits run up across the game. You are right about the loans, some seem to think it's just a handout, it isn't. Importantly the £16m is for the whole game, not just SL, they should really be referred to as hardship funds. Whilst players are furloughed the maximum they can get paid by the scheme is £2,500 a month, the clubs are not obliged to top it up, it will take some very painful belt tightening for everyone to repay what this whole situation has cost, RL is the least of our worries for the foreseeable. You could forgive Hudgell, Pearson et al for simply walking away. Owning a SL club is not a money making enterprise, even less so now. SL players are going to have to accept that £50K a year is a blumin good wage!

Mild Rover wrote: The £16 million is in the form of loans to save clubs from going under, as I understand it. Sky money will be cut by 17% next year according to this: https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-face-fina ... t-in-2021/ Sponsorship will be down in 2021, it is close to certain. Personal finances will be squeezed for many and ongoing uncertainty and fear relating to the virus will likely depress pass sales. There’s going to have to be some major belt tightening or big deficits run up across the game. You are right about the loans, some seem to think it's just a handout, it isn't. Importantly the £16m is for the whole game, not just SL, they should really be referred to as hardship funds. Whilst players are furloughed the maximum they can get paid by the scheme is £2,500 a month, the clubs are not obliged to top it up, it will take some very painful belt tightening for everyone to repay what this whole situation has cost, RL is the least of our worries for the foreseeable. You could forgive Hudgell, Pearson et al for simply walking away. Owning a SL club is not a money making enterprise, even less so now. SL players are going to have to accept that £50K a year is a blumin good wage!

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:41 pm  

Rumour I heard was Benji Marshall to replace Kelly.

Also, heard that Bateman is coming to Hull, not Wigan, and he’s bringing James Graham with him.

All dependant on us getting £4M Of the £16M loaned to the RFL.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:34 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote: Rumour I heard was Benji Marshall to replace Kelly. Also, heard that Bateman is coming to Hull, not Wigan, and he’s bringing James Graham with him. All dependant on us getting £4M Of the £16M loaned to the RFL. very much doubt it... Guardian, May 1st here "How the £16m rescue package is distributed is likely to be discussed by the RFL and its clubs in the coming days. Many in Super League privately believe the funding should be heavily weighted towards top-flight clubs, though with the government underlining the importance of rugby league to its local communities, a significant portion will probably be spent on funding the sport at grassroots level. The government’s confirmation that the money has been issued as an emergency loan, rather than a grant, also implies rugby league will be responsible for repaying it over a period of time, though the terms have not been disclosed. “Rugby league is a sport that makes a significant social impact in the communities it serves, which is even more important now as we respond to the economic pressures resulting from Covid-19,” Steve Barclay, chief secretary to the Treasury, said." even if that caveat hadn't been made, no way would one club be allowed 1/4 of the amount available...

Irregular Hoops wrote: Rumour I heard was Benji Marshall to replace Kelly. Also, heard that Bateman is coming to Hull, not Wigan, and he’s bringing James Graham with him. All dependant on us getting £4M Of the £16M loaned to the RFL. very much doubt it... Guardian, May 1st here "How the £16m rescue package is distributed is likely to be discussed by the RFL and its clubs in the coming days. Many in Super League privately believe the funding should be heavily weighted towards top-flight clubs, though with the government underlining the importance of rugby league to its local communities, a significant portion will probably be spent on funding the sport at grassroots level. The government’s confirmation that the money has been issued as an emergency loan, rather than a grant, also implies rugby league will be responsible for repaying it over a period of time, though the terms have not been disclosed. “Rugby league is a sport that makes a significant social impact in the communities it serves, which is even more important now as we respond to the economic pressures resulting from Covid-19,” Steve Barclay, chief secretary to the Treasury, said." even if that caveat hadn't been made, no way would one club be allowed 1/4 of the amount available...

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:39 am  

IR80 wrote: very much doubt it... Guardian, May 1st here "How the £16m rescue package is distributed is likely to be discussed by the RFL and its clubs in the coming days. Many in Super League privately believe the funding should be heavily weighted towards top-flight clubs, though with the government underlining the importance of rugby league to its local communities, a significant portion will probably be spent on funding the sport at grassroots level. The government’s confirmation that the money has been issued as an emergency loan, rather than a grant, also implies rugby league will be responsible for repaying it over a period of time, though the terms have not been disclosed. “Rugby league is a sport that makes a significant social impact in the communities it serves, which is even more important now as we respond to the economic pressures resulting from Covid-19,” Steve Barclay, chief secretary to the Treasury, said." even if that caveat hadn't been made, no way would one club be allowed 1/4 of the amount available... I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious.

IR80 wrote: very much doubt it... Guardian, May 1st here "How the £16m rescue package is distributed is likely to be discussed by the RFL and its clubs in the coming days. Many in Super League privately believe the funding should be heavily weighted towards top-flight clubs, though with the government underlining the importance of rugby league to its local communities, a significant portion will probably be spent on funding the sport at grassroots level. The government’s confirmation that the money has been issued as an emergency loan, rather than a grant, also implies rugby league will be responsible for repaying it over a period of time, though the terms have not been disclosed. “Rugby league is a sport that makes a significant social impact in the communities it serves, which is even more important now as we respond to the economic pressures resulting from Covid-19,” Steve Barclay, chief secretary to the Treasury, said." even if that caveat hadn't been made, no way would one club be allowed 1/4 of the amount available... I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:06 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious.

I did wonder when I saw who posted it, but it was early, and you'd be amazed what some people believe the money can (or should) be used for....

*not saying IH nelieved it, but it wouldn't surprise me if similar ideas were being banded about!

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:59 am  

oooh Gravy! wrote:

Toronto?

Yes

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:18 am  

Is there a deadline for players renewing contracts

As when can we expect to hear of Houghtons decision?

Personally think it suits all party's he leaves.
Would save us a lot on the wage bill
Johnstone/Cator ready to take up hooking spots

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:34 am  

As far as I'm aware, contract deadlines have not been changed, so anyone in the last year of their contract is now a free agent if they have not accepted new terms.

I can't see how the club could possibly be in a position to make new contract offers, so my guess is that anyone who wants to go will go.

Only a few clubs will be squad building, and we know who they are.