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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"We have these threads every year. Where's our resident coffee expert? I'm sure she can dig up a few from the last 2 or 3 years where people have been wildly optimistic with no basis for it and we've been utter rubbish'"
I think the last few seasons have taught us all to be cautious or at least it should of, do feel alot more confident this year than last, as feel our facilities, off field staff and playing staff are streets ahead of last season. I said last year, we could do ok if the gambles pay off, unfortunately not one of them did and it was a diaster. We still have gambles amd need some of those to pay off, but no where near the level of 2024.
I do wonder if Smith gets another chance to coach, I think it would be a huge risk.
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| Don’t think battling for 6th is particularly wildly optimistic,maybe hopeful,time will tell.We could all see what was happening the last 2 or 3 years,but things have changed?
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"We have these threads every year. Where's our resident coffee expert? I'm sure she can dig up a few from the last 2 or 3 years where people have been wildly optimistic with no basis for it and we've been utter rubbish'"
Stop living in the past peg.
We’ve not had wealthy club owners before
We could search for a positive post from you but it would be like looking for kr’s trophy cabinet
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| Quote boardwalkempire7="boardwalkempire7"Stop living in the past peg.
We’ve not had wealthy club owners before
We could search for a positive post from you but it would be like looking for kr’s trophy cabinet'"
FWIW money into a club is the tip of the iceberg. There is only circa £2 million to spend on cap and the less desirable clubs ie bottom half have to spend heavy to get their man. Jamie Peacock told me that his time at Leeds no player will be paid in excess of £100k and as they were winning this wasn't an issue to him signing. Jordan Abdull is on significantly more than that now as he was at Rovers. The younger players don't count on cap and your 2 marquee players cost £150k. Where money helps is the excess fees over marquee players. Asiata on £240k means only £150k counts on cap so the money men help with the difference. Attracting players is the hard bit. Rovers attempt to sign Dupree highlights money doesn't talk. He agreed a deal for 4 years at £145k and signed for Wigan for 3 years at £130k due to prospects. Hulls attempt to sign Lee Briers was outrages yet he choses a different club on less money. All figures quoted are known.
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| Quote boardwalkempire7="boardwalkempire7"Stop living in the past peg.
We’ve not had wealthy club owners before
We could search for a positive post from you but it would be like looking for kr’s trophy cabinet'"
One man's pessimist is another man's realist.
What difference will wealthy owners make with the current squad? Are we going to bribe the refs or something?
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| Quote The Cooke Report="The Cooke Report"FWIW money into a club is the tip of the iceberg. There is only circa £2 million to spend on cap and the less desirable clubs ie bottom half have to spend heavy to get their man. Jamie Peacock told me that his time at Leeds no player will be paid in excess of £100k and as they were winning this wasn't an issue to him signing. Jordan Abdull is on significantly more than that now as he was at Rovers. The younger players don't count on cap and your 2 marquee players cost £150k. Where money helps is the excess fees over marquee players. Asiata on £240k means only £150k counts on cap so the money men help with the difference. Attracting players is the hard bit. Rovers attempt to sign Dupree highlights money doesn't talk. He agreed a deal for 4 years at £145k and signed for Wigan for 3 years at £130k due to prospects. Hulls attempt to sign Lee Briers was outrages yet he choses a different club on less money[u. All figures quoted are known.[/u'"
Course they are, the voices in your head don't count though. Cristiano Ronaldo told me last week what he's on in Saudi and I'm meeting Lewis Hamilton later so he can talk through his new Ferrari deal with me 
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| Quote Yippee try yay="Yippee try yay"Course they are, the voices in your head don't count though. Cristiano Ronaldo told me last week what he's on in Saudi and I'm meeting Lewis Hamilton later so he can talk through his new Ferrari deal with me
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well done I am pleased for you, try responding without insults or poor attempt at humour as its not endearing.
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| Quote The Cooke Report="The Cooke Report"FWIW money into a club is the tip of the iceberg. There is only circa £2 million to spend on cap and the less desirable clubs ie bottom half have to spend heavy to get their man. Jamie Peacock told me that his time at Leeds no player will be paid in excess of £100k and as they were winning this wasn't an issue to him signing. Jordan Abdull is on significantly more than that now as he was at Rovers. The younger players don't count on cap and your 2 marquee players cost £150k. Where money helps is the excess fees over marquee players. Asiata on £240k means only £150k counts on cap so the money men help with the difference. Attracting players is the hard bit. Rovers attempt to sign Dupree highlights money doesn't talk. He agreed a deal for 4 years at £145k and signed for Wigan for 3 years at £130k due to prospects. Hulls attempt to sign Lee Briers was outrages yet he choses a different club on less money. All figures quoted are known.'"
Think your post has a lot of holes in actual facts
And you know the Abdull is on significantly more how? I assume you must have been in on the deal or Abdull himself has called you to tell you?
As for Dupree what we do know of the actual facts, both Rovers and Wigan offered Salford money for him with Wigan offering more, both offers were refused. He then agreed a contract extension at Salford, an undisclosed fee was then subsequently agreed with Wigan and he signed a 4 year deal, not 3 as you state, so whatever Dupree may or may not have agreed before Salford even sold him to any club matters not one jot.
There's no question that Hull were and still are behind the top clubs to an extent in terms of being an attractive proposition in the here and now. Had Pearson still been the owner that scenario likely wouldn't have improved, however the new ownership and the significant financial backing Hull FC now have, will have changed the landscape significantly moving forward for the club.
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| Quote Chris71="Chris71"Think your post has a lot of holes in actual facts
And you know the Abdull is on significantly more how? I assume you must have been in on the deal or Abdull himself has called you to tell you?
As for Dupree what we do know of the actual facts, both Rovers and Wigan offered Salford money for him with Wigan offering more, both offers were refused. He then agreed a contract extension at Salford, an undisclosed fee was then subsequently agreed with Wigan and he signed a 4 year deal, not 3 as you state, so whatever Dupree may or may not have agreed before Salford even sold him to any club matters not one jot.
There's no question that Hull were and still are behind the top clubs to an extent in terms of being an attractive proposition in the here and now. Had Pearson still been the owner that scenario likely wouldn't have improved, however the new ownership and the significant financial backing Hull FC now have, will have changed the landscape significantly moving forward for the club.'"
Once we're competitive, no one is choosing poorhouse lane over the MKM
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| Quote The Cooke Report="The Cooke Report"well done I am pleased for you, try responding without insults or poor attempt at humour as its not endearing.'"
Maybe practice what you preach, all you do is post on here with poisonous little comments aimed to belittle everything Hull fc with boring little digs.
In a few years when we're back near the top you'll scuttle off back to your secret board (fingers crossed).
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Once we're competitive, no one is choosing poorhouse lane over the MKM'"
Nah don't you know they've got a new 3G pitch. Heard Clearey, Hynes, Haas, To'o and Tino are all desperate to come over for a look.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Quote Dave K.I think the last few seasons have taught us all to be cautious'" or at least it should of, do feel alot more confident this year than last, as feel our facilities, off field staff and playing staff are streets ahead of last season. I said last year, we could do ok if the gambles pay off, unfortunately not one of them did and it was a diaster. We still have gambles amd need some of those to pay off, but no where near the level of 2024.
I do wonder if Smith gets another chance to coach, I think it would be a huge risk.'"
Earlier in this thread (in my standings prediction) I put us tenth, and that was a self-reflective act on my part due to the overwhelming disappointments of recent years. I would like to be more positive about 2025, but having been so badly burned these past four years I need to see some proof we've stopped the rot and turned a corner first before I start getting carried away!! We've been here too many times in the recent past for me to be too wildly optimistic, I've been watching us for far too long to ever be carried away on mere promises!
There are still a lot of question-marks and variables around us (as there are for a number of clubs). I'm simply going to take it week by week, game by game and see how it unfolds for us. Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised as the year progresses.
As for T. Smith? You do wonder who, in SL, would take a gamble on him after his stint with us. It would have to be someone who believes he still has something left in the tank to prove himself again, but really not sure who that club would be. Huddersfield maybe? if it goes badly wrong for them and Robinson is dismissed half-way through the year. That's the only type of scenario I see Smith returning, or at a Championship outfit, and I'm not sure that would interest him at this stage in his life. He undoubtedly blew a hole through his reputation during his spell with us!!
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