: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:51 am  

Standee wrote:

Whilst I have no particular admiration for James Rule I think that is about as far off the mark as possible.

And then some

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:56 am  

newington15 wrote:

the main man at fc is full of it,i dont believe anything he says,i dont think he is that keen on crocker coming now,due too the economic crisis were in.i get the impression he wants it too fall through.

He was thinking that but after the G-20 he wants him to come again now.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:57 am  

Standee wrote:

Yes:

"Speaking to the Mail, Mr Sutcliffe said he had not been made aware of the problem, which has seen a number of clubs miss out on key signings due to tightening up of immigration rules.

"I am happy for the club if they want to get in touch with me to do so and I will speak to the relevant Minister" he said"

maybe you should take your head out of your booty and read the article instead of jumping straight to the clubs defence all the time. (just an idea)

Likewise with people who jump straight on to the 'blaming the club' bandwagon.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:59 am  

newington15 wrote:

the main man at fc is full of it,i dont believe anything he says,i dont think he is that keen on crocker coming now,due too the economic crisis were in.i get the impression he wants it too fall through.

WTF

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:02 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Likewise with people who jump straight on to the 'blaming the club' bandwagon.

So you think it is acceptable that we have not sought intervention/clarification from the relevant minister? Then fair enough.

Has the cuddle crew died, only to be replaced by the Sycophant Seven?

[Kosh]

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:34 am  

Standee wrote:

So you think it is acceptable that we have not sought intervention/clarification from the relevant minister? Then fair enough.

Has the cuddle crew died, only to be replaced by the Sycophant Seven?

Sutcliffe is not the relevant minister.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:40 am  

Kosh wrote:

Sutcliffe is not the relevant minister.

So, it's not relevant to the Sports Minister?

Whilst he isn't responsible for the Immigration service, it is in his remit to investigate the impact of the service on sport.

[Kosh]

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:47 am  

Standee wrote:

So, it's not relevant to the Sports Minister?

Apparently he didn't think it was until he was contacted by the press, since he was blissfully unaware of the havoc being wreaked by his colleagues. This despite numerous stories in all forms of media and the impact on his 'local' RL club, Bradford.

Just how much help do you expect this numbnuts to be?

Standee wrote:

Whilst he isn't responsible for the Immigration service, it is in his remit to investigate the impact of the service on sport.

Nevertheless, the relevant minister is the one responsible for Immigration. His department has been talking to the RFL and the clubs about this situation. So to state that the relevant minister has not been contacted is misleading IMO.

There is also the consideration to be made about when to go over the heads of the officials concerned. Bringing in another minister early on in the proceedings could actually jeopardise Crocker's chances by putting noses out of joint.

Bear in mind that Sutcliffe has no authority to directly affect decisions by UKBA. All he can do is make some enquiries and then sit back and see what happens.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:47 am  

Standee wrote:

So, it's not relevant to the Sports Minister?

Whilst he isn't responsible for the Immigration service, it is in his remit to investigate the impact of the service on sport.

If i were the RFL i would be demanding an audience with both and get them both in the same room to work through a solution.

: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:53 am  

Kosh wrote:

Apparently he didn't think it was until he was contacted by the press, since he was blissfully unaware of the havoc being wreaked by his colleagues. This despite numerous stories in all forms of media and the impact on his 'local' RL club, Bradford.

Personally I am quite happy that the Minister for Sport is dealing with the major sports and events (you know, like the Olympics in 2012 etc.) and not being diverted by a minority sport like RL.

Kosh wrote:

Just how much help do you expect this numbnuts to be?

I have no idea, but he'd be a lot more help had we actively engaged him as soon as it was relevant.

Kosh wrote:

Nevertheless, the relevant minister is the one responsible for Immigration. His department has been talking to the RFL and the clubs about this situation. So to state that the relevant minister has not been contacted is misleading IMO.

That is your opinion, which is wrong, there is no single relevant minister, when the actions of one department impact on the responsibilities of another then TWO ministers become relevant. You're just sticking up for the club, as is your right.

Kosh wrote:

Bear in mind that Sutcliffe has no authority to directly affect decisions by UKBA. All he can do is make some enquiries and then sit back and see what happens.

You might want to try talking down to other posters Kosh, but it doesn't work with me, I am well aware of the workings of Government thanks.