Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:07 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

No news is good news. The fact that Rugby League is shutdown probably accountsthe for the lack of any stories or would you rather FC make up fake news, much like the HDM

How about some news on the coaching front ? What the players are up to in lockdown ? Financial news, OOC players ? The fact that nothing is coming out makes me think its bad, its understandable but still disappointing.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:20 pm  

Houghton has been offered a lot more else where , just depends if he wants to get out of his comfort zone for his last contract .

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:02 pm  

Windy winger wrote:

Houghton has been offered a lot more else where , just depends if he wants to get out of his comfort zone for his last contract .

Toronto?

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:27 pm  

steve_norton wrote:

I wonder with the income situation being as it is if the club are considering Connor Wynne and Jordan Johnstone as younger replacements for Shaul and Houghton. With Ratu and Kelly they could shed four players off this years squad probably saving quiet a bit albeit leaving it a bit thin.

I'm worried by the lack of news from the club, the only news we are getting is from the HDM and its always bad!

Me too. I agree with your points on potential reduction in squad quality. Let s also bear in mind we have only 6 points from 7 games and no permanent coach and no benefactor owner to buffer us from financial strain so not really a compelling destination.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:45 pm  

oooh Gravy! wrote:

Toronto?

Have just released Andy Ackers.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:52 pm  

Sebasteeno wrote:

But club Hull has been consistently poor for a while - Shaul, Houghton, Taylor, Bowden, Lane, Fash have all been poor for ages - certainly some of those were far too comfortable in the team because of Radford - would we miss any of them, perhaps Taylor, but not any of the rest based on this and last seasons performances. I hope Houghton can do a Roby and find some form again in his last years - the rest can go now for me

To be fair most of the team have been poor for a while, could a coach change plus the enforced break be a huge positive for those/all players?

Also what do you expect of squad players like Fash and Lane, they clearly aren't ever going to be headline names and their salaries reflect that, Fash gives his all every time, we know he isn't going to bend the line, that's not what he is in the team for, he's there as a stopper and can, though not sure he's suited to, cover dummy half.

Bowden has been beleaguered by injury the last 2 years, a shame really as at his peak he's a really good prop, again though who would we get on his salary, is he a middlin' earner, I wouldn't know but he's not going to be on loads, and still only 28, the club obviously need to look forward, judge if he's worth holding onto, see who can offer similar in performance for similar money.
Do we have any props coming through that can take up that role, there's hardly a plethora of decent props out there and it's difficult to know how much Bienek has come on and if he's ready to step up.
Wynne at FB, would any of the faithful be unhappy if he were a starter and we lose Shaul, Shaul himself got a chance when SM got injured and grabbed it with both hands, Wynne certainly seems to have what it takes.
Taylor has looked jaded, but is that the result of simply having to take so much on his shoulders or something else, again who could we replace him with like for like IF that was a decision is to be made?

It's going to be really hard for the coach/club to make decisions either way, we can only hope that those that take the field show us something to get excited about, have a re-do and get a really tight bond between the players/coaches and show us what we have been begging to see for some time.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:25 pm  

I have similar thoughts regarding club hull players, I posted a cost effective post in the wake of the coronovirus whereas when you look at what Houghton, Shaul and Bowden are earning and how they are or arnt performing you could definatley put forward a good case for Johnstone, Wynne and Brown replacing them , and argubally out performing them while on much much lesser wages.

I'd add Matongo to your list too who is now 24 and has failed to cement a place, often being injured or just not being assertive and busy enough when he plays.

A mixture of club hull comfort zones, and not so youngsters who have failed to progress/perform to a high level

Some very good squad shuffling/recruitment needed and not big name signings either more effective cogs who perform. Somebody's going to have to be clever with the wage cap.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:37 pm  

Only my opinion but id let fash lane Bowden go. Would give beinik Masi one more season to see if they can make it. Like the look of Buchanan and think Cameron Scott can still make the grade. Interesting times

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:49 pm  

Rocknrolla69er wrote:

I have similar thoughts regarding club hull players, I posted a cost effective post in the wake of the coronovirus whereas when you look at what Houghton, Shaul and Bowden are earning and how they are or arnt performing you could definatley put forward a good case for Johnstone, Wynne and Brown replacing them , and argubally out performing them while on much much lesser wages.

I'd add Matongo to your list too who is now 24 and has failed to cement a place, often being injured or just not being assertive and busy enough when he plays.

A mixture of club hull comfort zones, and not so youngsters who have failed to progress/perform to a high level

Some very good squad shuffling/recruitment needed and not big name signings either more effective cogs who perform. Somebody's going to have to be clever with the wage cap.

My concern about the lack of information coming out of the club is that we may have to brace ourselves for more bad news.
We know we are losing Ratu and Kelly but the Jones situation has still not been clarified by the club and i just hope this inactivity the sport now finds itself in doesnt have an adverse effect on our new overseas recruits and their families and one or two ask to be released from their contracts on compassionate grounds and return to Australia.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:22 pm  

I'm staying positive, didn't the Jones rumours get dismissed and I'm hoping no news in the Jones scenario is good news.

Kelly and Ratu can be replaced we have a Fonua and hopefully Connor partnership to look forward too. I'm sure the over seas guys will want to still have their over seas experiance and honour their contracts, I can't see mass contract cancellations I don't get why they would, none have in other sports........

Once the footy a done n dusted then rugby can get on with getting games played, and there's a £16m fund to compensate clubs for any financial losses incurred by playing games behind closed doors

too much doom n gloom for me when theirs logical solutions