Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:06 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Theres a couple I'd take, not Tahu though.

I liked the look of Ryan Stig when he got a few first team games last year. Good runner and support player , He set up a few tries last year and he's got a good kicking game as well. Wouldn't break the bank either.

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:11 pm  

Wouldn't want Stig tbh, I may be in the minority but I think Horne will still be our 6 next season.

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:22 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Wouldn't want Stig tbh, I may be in the minority but I think Horne will still be our 6 next season.

I am sure he still will be, and I am sure he'll not be at the required standard, he simply isn't good enough, never has been.

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:26 pm  

Standee wrote:

I am sure he still will be, and I am sure he'll not be at the required standard, he simply isn't good enough, never has been.

tad unfair

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:29 pm  

Standee wrote:

I am sure he still will be, and I am sure he'll not be at the required standard, he simply isn't good enough, never has been.

I dont agree with the last bit but it is all about opinions.

The first bit is more confusing. Do you think the current set up will carry people not up to standard or do you think the cap will force their hand in some way to accept some mediocrity?

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:33 pm  

jimmys sidestep wrote:

I dont agree with the last bit but it is all about opinions.

The first bit is more confusing. Do you think the current set up will carry people not up to standard or do you think the cap will force their hand in some way to accept some mediocrity?

the cap will force their hands, Horne isn't good enough now, even in his prime he was never creative as a half back, he's a no trick pony, I am glad he recovered fromhis injury and I think he's a top "bloke", but he isn't a top 2 player.

There's a reason he was picked for GB on the wing, he's not a great halfback.

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:34 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

Theres a couple I'd take, not Tahu though.

Who is making way for Scott in the centres , Naiqama , Sa'u ?. Joel Edwards would be a hit over here in the forwards. He isn't scared to put the big hits in.

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:41 pm  

Not sure bud, wouldn't be surprised to see a few move on.

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:45 pm  

Standee wrote:

the cap will force their hands, Horne isn't good enough now, even in his prime he was never creative as a half back, he's a no trick pony, I am glad he recovered fromhis injury and I think he's a top "bloke", but he isn't a top 2 player.

There's a reason he was picked for GB on the wing, he's not a great halfback.

Fair enough with the cap bit. He was never a comfortable creator or organiser but alongside one he was a real "running" threat and excellent support player IMO, i dont think his shorter kicking game was bad either. I would never use some of the questionable GB and England selections to use as a barometer for a players ability.

I do not know him as a bloke and dont care to be honest. Given the choice I would rather have a load of succesful kn0bheads (criminality, racism, homophobia not withstanding) then a load of unsuccessful nice guys.

Anyways, what a week

Re: Gareth Ellis signs!! : Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:51 pm  

Standee wrote:

the cap will force their hands, Horne isn't good enough now, even in his prime he was never creative as a half back, he's a no trick pony, I am glad he recovered fromhis injury and I think he's a top "bloke", but he isn't a top 2 player.

There's a reason he was picked for GB on the wing, he's not a great halfback.

That's no support of your argument at all IMO, Leon Pryce played on the wing for GB and he's quite clearly a very good stand-off.