: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:15 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Directors are employees. Some also own shares, some don't. My point is that the guy seems to have done well and earned a promotion and the foundation/community side of the club, including the new training facilities is now an area big enough to warrant a director in the opinion of the board. Why do we automatically assume they are wrong when we don't know how much work and senior management time is needed to make them a success?

Why have you automatically decided all who've queried the appointment as ppl who know nothing?

Whether it's right or not, why does it matter to you what other ppl's opinions are on the appointment?

And lastly, if i'm allowed 'your Heighness Barista' my opinion is formed on past dealing with said person, and not going into detail, had to be sorted out by, how can i put it, more senior personal!

So i ask again, why can't he carry on as just an employee, why add the tag 'DIRECTOR' if all he is is still just an employee?

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:28 pm  

Hull Fc have 2 boards

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:17 pm  

Hutchie wrote:

Hull Fc have 2 boards

you mean we have a royston vasey board as well as this one?

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:29 pm  

Ian.FCF wrote:

Why have you automatically decided all who've queried the appointment as ppl who know nothing?

I haven't. Although saying it's for tax reasons is a bit of a giveaway.

Ian.FCF wrote:

Whether it's right or not, why does it matter to you what other ppl's opinions are on the appointment?

The same reason that my opinion matters enough to you for you to post this.

Ian.FCF wrote:

And lastly, if i'm allowed 'your Heighness Barista' my opinion is formed on past dealing with said person, and not going into detail, had to be sorted out by, how can i put it, more senior personal!

So i ask again, why can't he carry on as just an employee, why add the tag 'DIRECTOR' if all he is is still just an employee?

There are thousands of directors who are "just employees" i.e. top tier management but not shareholders. In your opinion he's not director calibre, fair enough if that's your experience. Doesn't mean that the there's not a director level role needed to manage the £3m+ training facilities project and the externally-funded comunity programme. You and others are saying it's not needed. I'm suggesting it might be, but how many of us know enough about what is involved to be that sure?

And it's Your Highness.

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:48 pm  

Standee wrote:

You really don't understand t.i.c comments do you?

Lovin it !!
Shot down in flames by an 'in the know' accountant and it suddenly your comment was meant to be tongue in cheek.
Yeah right !!!

Having read a lot of your posts can I ask one question......Why dont you SUPPORT another club who you feel you can SUPPORT and not be critical of their every move. Sorry to be harsh and I arent one of those everything is rosey in the Hull FC garden but I have not read one supportive post of yours.Everything is negative !!!

Sorry but im sure a few agree with me or are you the token/local Mr Miserable ?!?!?!?

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:08 am  

the guy is a plonker for the want of a better word.,bad move by the club is all i think,hope he proves me wrong but doubt it very much.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:17 am  

alf hookem wrote:

the guy is a plonker for the want of a better word.,bad move by the club is all i think,hope he proves me wrong but doubt it very much.

Why ?

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:32 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

I haven't. Although saying it's for tax reasons is a bit of a giveaway.


The same reason that my opinion matters enough to you for you to post this.


There are thousands of directors who are "just employees" i.e. top tier management but not shareholders. In your opinion he's not director calibre, fair enough if that's your experience. Doesn't mean that the there's not a director level role needed to manage the £3m+ training facilities project and the externally-funded comunity programme. You and others are saying it's not needed. I'm suggesting it might be, but how many of us know enough about what is involved to be that sure?

And it's Your Highness.

Appreciate the well constructed comeback (and sly dig at my sp ) but the highlighted word is i suppose the point i was trying to make.
Why make him a Director and not just a Manager (Senior or not)
I suppose I live in the old world where it was a priveledge to be a Director (As well as being able financially to put something into the club) who oversaw the running of the club.
To me JF is just (and i mean 'JUST') an employee that does well in this area, to make him a director infers he is something special!

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:57 am  

[quote="MR BOJANGLES"]:lol:

Lovin it !!
Shot down in flames by an 'in the know' accountant and it suddenly your comment was meant to be tongue in cheek.
Yeah right !!!

Having read a lot of your posts can I ask one question......Why dont you SUPPORT another club who you feel you can SUPPORT and not be critical of their every move. Sorry to be harsh and I arent one of those everything is rosey in the Hull FC garden but I have not read one supportive post of yours.Everything is negative !!!

Sorry but im sure a few agree with me or are you the token/local Mr Miserable ?!?!?!?[/quote]no thats bighead although he is getting closer

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:38 am  

Chris28 wrote:

He's a decent guy and does a good job, so well done, but not sure why we need another director.

Neil Hudgell could do his job. Just add it to the list.