Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:07 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

why is he respected? Because he gets in early, puts the kettle on and stays to lock up? I've heard this lots of time sbut no one seems to know why he's respected. cas were a shiitshow under him and he was radford's sidekick during the steep decline

Radders signed his past it mates for Cas, not sure any coach would have got much out of Fonua 5 years past his sell by date

Yes he was there for the start of our decline but he was also there for the cup wins and success. And like others I take Wane and McNamara rating him as a good sign.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:10 pm  

UllFC wrote:

Radders signed his past it mates for Cas, not sure any coach would have got much out of Fonua 5 years past his sell by date

Yes he was there for the start of our decline but he was also there for the cup wins and success. And like others I take Wane and McNamara rating him as a good sign.

he was also here under agar wasn't he? we had 2 good seasons in the 10+ years he was an assistant

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:25 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Next season we're probably going to be playing a full back in the centre, a winger at full back and a half back at hooker. Why not just sign players to play in their natural position?

We’ve appointed an Aussie coach, I think in the NRL they put a lot less emphasis on natural positions, outside backs especially seem a lot more interchangeable and clubs will sign say someone who’s playing on the wing but sign them to play centre or full back or vice versa because they think they’ve got the skill set. Also a lot of 6 or 7’s make the switch to what they call the ‘14 jersey’ as the interchange dummy half. I’m not saying the recruitment is particularly great or that they’ll all work out, but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Cust, Sezer, Rapana and Cartwright Jrn have all played under Cartwright Srn. I’m sure he knows the skill set and trusts them to play the positions he has in mind. He could be just plain wrong of course but when you appoint a coach you have put a certain amount of trust in their judgement in players even if working under a DOR.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:27 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

he was also here under agar wasn't he? we had 2 good seasons in the 10+ years he was an assistant

I think he was an assistant right back to 2005 under Kear.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:28 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

he was also here under agar wasn't he? we had 2 good seasons in the 10+ years he was an assistant

He was in the staff but not sure he was the main assistant, we had Jon Sharp, James Webster was there for a spell, then Radders was with Gentle. There was also Andy Hay for a bit. Lost track of what happened when in all the mediocre disappointments

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:46 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Dunno but he doesn't seem to have had much positive effect under macnamara either. If he can't influence the coach he shouldn't be in the position anyway.

I just think it' a lazy, uninspiring appointment when we could have really gone out of our way to find someone who can make a difference. it's the same as signing briscoe, chamberlain, hardaker, cust, sezer and rapana. In isolation they're not bad signings it's just the more of that ilk you sign the further from where you could have been that you get.

Next season we're probably going to be playing a full back in the centre, a winger at full back and a half back at hooker. Why not just sign players to play in their natural position?

too much sense there Jake
you will soon be the new whipping boy of the Hull FC forum
And never mention that HKR are a good team

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:50 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Well Shaun Wane rates and respects him enough to have him as his assistant, McNamara too

And I guess because in Wane's absence he was England Coach this year against France

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:54 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I know, but I'm asking what he brings to the table.

I respect a couple of guys who work for me because they're reliable and do as they're told but I wouldn't trust them to run things

The word “assistant" gives it away, he won't be running things he'll be working under the direction of the head coach. I think it's generally accepted that the appointment of Coach Cartwright is a good one so his judgement should be trusted. He's appointed the current England assistant, who would you suggest as a better option?

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:00 am  

EtonStreetRifle wrote:

The word “assistant" gives it away, he won't be running things he'll be working under the direction of the head coach. I think it's generally accepted that the appointment of Coach Cartwright is a good one so his judgement should be trusted. He's appointed the current England assistant, who would you suggest as a better option?

Ryan sheridan, Michael Shenton to name a couple. Someone who was an attacking player

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:09 am  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

I think he was an assistant right back to 2005 under Kear.

Left in 2020 amd no one can argue we haven't got significantly worse since he left, even under Agar, things didn't seem as bad as this. The last two assistant were Gene and Purtill,one is unemployed, the other was managing Leighs women's team.