Well I can given that they are incorrect. I'm guessing you've just copied and pasted from Wikipedia. Also we weren't called Hull Sharks in 2000.

You have just made up the Hodgson thing, for a start Hodgson played many years in SL and he didn't get near winning anything.



We have had at least ten good years out of Houghton, we would have had 5 max out of Hodgson who always had ambition of playing in Aus.



Bad timing, but definitely the right decision.

I did copy and paste it…tbh,I like to forget the bloody sharks era.Still didn’t rate McDonald though.

He is bloody obsessed with Houghton….il admit to not being Houghtons biggest fan and yes he does lack the spark of a Roby,Clarke and Hodgson but I think he has been flogged to death and that’s took its toll.Hodgson improved massively down under.As a side note…What coach got rid of Hodgson.

There’s some good bedtime reading on here tonight.. zzzz

You can interpret the past and interpret stats to suit your agenda.

Just look forward to a young hungry team representing the shirt.

I personally think we will go well next season.

My dark horse to shine is

Morgan Smith.

Anyone that’s sports a dodgy tache must have bags of confidence.

But imo we could of had so much more with an attacking 9



Imagine if we had Roby or daryl clark in 2016/17



Would of been another level



The fact Houghton hasn't ever really got close to a full england/gb call up says it all

... will he even play ?



Fit 17 he doesn't get in



YES likes of lane, fash, cator, Jack brown are hungry lads with passion......but they're not good enough imo just hold us back year on year



Yet people can't see it frustrating

I wish you would mention this more.

Or conversely imagine if we hadn’t had Houghton we may not have achieved what we did in 16 & 17?



Your continuation of stating that Houghton not getting a GB call up whilst that is true it doesn’t prove he wasn’t good enough and you trying to claim this as a fact is tiresome and repetitive.



We all know the politics in picking England/GB teams for one thing & that it’s rarely a level playing field. Yes Roby was ahead of Houghton as his all round game was better but he came through very good St’s teams. We were also well stocked in quality 9’s in the British game at that period too.



Of course had Roby been at 9 for us we could possibly have achieved more as he’d have improved us but he’d have improved any team he went too (including NRL) so it’s a pretty moot point.



I think we have overused Houghton over the years due to him been not only very dependable in his role but also his fitness.



I’ve been one to criticise him at times but he has been an important and integral part of the clubs success which you seem unwilling to see or accept.

Roll on that Bradford friendly

I was at Scott Taylor's testimonial event recently when Sam Burgess was a guest. Someone asked the panel why Houghton never had any international recognition and Burgess said sometimes it's just down the coaches personal preference. Some players get picked regardless of form, the coach just prefers them or they suit the coach's style of play,



Tommy Martyn and Lee Briers as a couple of examples had very modest international recognition despite both having great club careers.

Look at Wane at the last World Cup…he picked Mcllorum,who is on par with Houghton imo,not great rd the ruck but good defense and tbh Houghton had 3 good hookes ahead of him during his career and Ackers has come through who is very very underrated.

Houghton is a good lad



The flogged to bit is just a myth even when he gets spelled he only does the same thing just tackle and the odd 10 meter scoot when opposition on the back foot



When in reality a lot of the time a 9 with pace would be a try

Martyn and Briers were good but likes of Sculthorpe at 6 were better options



Sculthorpe was world class

Martyn and Briers very good but not world class

Whilst I agree with your point that Sculthorpe was a world class player the rest of your post is questionable.



Sculthorpe was one of the best LF to have played the game and whilst he could play stand off to say he was better than the likes of Martyn & Briers in that position is very questionable.

The post is nonsense, both Martym and Briers were better halfbacks, Sculthorpe was a fantastic 13 though.

Been realistic. What league position do you all think we can achieve next season ? I think we could have a big improvement in the forwards. I'm a little worried in the backs. No out and out 7 and I don't think Hoy's hamstrings are going to last long enough.

He couldn't play loose forward as we had a guy called Andy farrell playing aswell



Tommy martyn and briers isn't getting infront of



6. Sculthorpe

7. Long

13. Farrell



They didn't point proven

6th, last year we were awful, recruitment has been ok but not brilliant, other clubs have recruited well and will also improve on last season

Nope, mainly it was one of Farrell or Sculthorpe playing in the backrow.



I've just looked at teams for the world cup and sine tri nation games.



Stand offs where Harris, Deacon and Mcguire.

Led to believe we are closing in on the 8K mark for passes sold, great numbers with over a month to go.

Great to see that fans are willing to stick with the team and that every game being on sky hasnt affected ticket sales

It's bad in a way though, as with everyone renewing I couldn't get a pass nearer to my family than I had last year.

I hear that Lee Crooks is the new Player Welfare Officer, replacing Feka.