Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:19 pm  

[quote="Mrs Barista"][/quote]

Pretty much everyone

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:32 pm  

I don't buy too much into player power.

Professional rugby is a short career and typically 2 or 3 year contracts (I know we like to buck that trend).

They are always in the shop window and playing for the next contract. They wouldn't jeopardise their livelihoods.

By contrast to other Super League teams we are slow, tactically inept, unmotivated, uncoordinated, rudderless, lethargic, passionless and confused.

Those are all Managerial/coaching remits.

I don't believe this is a team that can do much at its best because it's poorly put together (another managerial failing) but it is certainly more able then we are seeing.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:38 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Hammer House of Horror material for just about all.

Just about all, but there’s exception isn’t there?

Somebody who now looks very wise (wize?), with his house of cards metaphor.

Elegantly done!

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:41 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Just about all, but there’s exception isn’t there?

Somebody who now looks very wise (wize?), with his house of cards metaphor.

Elegantly done!

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:53 pm  

mwindass wrote:

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-comments-key-catalysts-9185210

He's lost the plot

The fans are fed up and vexed off and he consistently comes out with this uninspiring "stick with us", "it takes time", "results like this happen" bullshit. If we were seeing signs of improvement you could believe what he says and that we're working towards something, but we're worse now than what he joined the club.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:12 pm  

Hasbag wrote:

The fans are fed up and vexed off and he consistently comes out with this uninspiring "stick with us", "it takes time", "results like this happen" bullshit. If we were seeing signs of improvement you could believe what he says and that we're working towards something, but we're worse now than what he joined the club.

We look the worst coached team by a country mile. We've got nothing either side of the ball. With it we just plod around aimlessly, then put in a terrible kick or forget its the last tackle and pass it to a prop. Without it our contact in defence is pish poor, teams get god know how many after contact metres. We're all at sea when teams get in our 20 and just feels inevitable they will score.

We've had one win against an under equipped London team that we had to snatch in the last minute, other than that every other game has seen us comfortably the second best team.

Id love the club to host an open training session to see what they all get up to.

How he thinks his job is safe is beyond me. We should be interviewing potential head coaches now, I doubt our owner and CEO are that on the ball though.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:12 pm  

BP1 wrote:

I'm not sure if sacking Smith would solve anything (I get the feeling that some issues are so deep-set they have become virtually immoveable) but it's certain that sticking with him will almost certainly see these horror shows being repeated week after week after week until our games are being watched by around 200 people!!

Whether it's Smith, his methods, Gene, the players trying to get him sacked, I don't know, but we have now gone beyond the point of no return. Something, somewhere has to change, we can't simply roll along like this any longer, every week that passes is doing irreparable harm to this once great club, soon there will be nothing left to build back on.

If this is another case of player-power attempting to get rid of yet another coach they don't like, well tell the players they can coach and pick a team themselves and see how far they get. At least they, and they alone, would then be accountable for their own actions.

I dont think there are many coaches that could have done a worse job than Smith
Keep saying this but tell me one thing Smith has done that has enhanced us on the field?

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:16 pm  

mwindass wrote:

We look the worst coached team by a country mile. We've got nothing either side of the ball. With it we just plod around aimlessly, then put in a terrible kick or forget its the last tackle and pass it to a prop. Without it our contact in defence is pish poor, teams get god know how many after contact metres. We're all at sea when teams get in our 20 and just feels inevitable they will score.

We've had one win against an under equipped London team that we had to snatch in the last minute, other than that every other game has seen us comfortably the second best team.

Id love the club to host an open training session to see what they all get up to.

How he thinks his job is safe is beyond me. We should be interviewing potential head coaches now, I doubt our owner and CEO are that on the ball though.

I thought you could go to the Uni and watch them train whenever you like?

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:18 pm  

Man that was horrendous again it's not losing it's just so many points against that smacks of players that don't give a toss and have no pride. Pride in the shirts and respect for the fans is all we really ask isn't its? It's really getting to me now with no hope on the horizon at all. AND there's the away game from hell looming. That total inertia and lack of wanting in defence is certainly not the hallmarks of my beloved team at all. It's getting like that second season in Super League under Lloyd. I hope Tony is getting an additional fee because he appears to be the clubs sole spokesman no one else says anything or gives us any reasons to have some hope. When he says his job is safe because Adam gets it I think it means that Adam gets that it's going to cost a fortune to get rid of him!

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:19 pm  

bonaire wrote:

I dont think there are many coaches that could have done a worse job than Smith
Keep saying this but tell me one thing Smith has done that has enhanced us on the field?

His bullshit must be good for the grass