[Chris71]

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:25 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Chris71 wrote:

Agree I don't think its that Hoy can't be arsed, I just think he has a very laid back style in the way he plays that possibly seems to come across as a bit half arsed. Think he's also still finding his feet within the team and will only improve as he settles.

His defence isn't that bad either, most of the ones fans have highlighted have been big forwards 2 yards from the line. Actually saved a few tackles one on one, certainly better than Connor in that area.

He certainly seems good at getting in between the oppositions ball carrier and supporting runners when they've made a break as he's done that a few times already.
Think he will get better the more the plays and settles not jus in the team/club but in terms of living the other side of the world.
Would imagine now Trueman is fit and starting to show what he can do alongside Clifford that will also help Hoy as he links in the play.

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:49 am  

Never understood the Hoy hate. Constantly runs over 100m and a lot of his Carries are back line Carries which show a ton of commitment.

Also has the ability to slow breaks down like Chris has alluded to. Without his ability to get in the middle and put some doubt in the attacker swift doesn’t make the tackle yesterday. Also worth noting Hoy also made the right decision and probably made the tackle if swift hadn’t been there.

It’s fair to say litten is probably the busier fullback but I think a lot of that is because of how green he is. He wants to be involved and make something happen when a lot of the time he should just pass. (At times like hudds game it does work for sutty try but not often enough)

For now Hoy is undisputed #1. Let litten spend a season of two on wing to gain experience and he’ll then be ready to replace Hoy when he succeeds him or Hoy moves on.

Got to remember Hoy is also 23, is there a younger first choice fullback in SL?

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:50 am  

mwindass wrote:

Hoy has been nowhere near as bad as some people made out.

The kid makes 100+ metres every game he plays. If he wasn't arsed he wouldn't get near those numbers.

Once he settles in like it took Clifford a bit he will show his class, funny KR fans was taking the mick out of him but their Fullback Coote is always injured.

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:15 am  

I’ve slated Hoy before but he really showed up yesterday. Still think Litten is safer under the high ball, but going forward Hoy is streets ahead. I hope we can keep hold of them both long term.

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:36 am  

Hoy is doing fine. Averaging 19 carries and 112 metres.

He and his partner seem to be enjoying their time here too.

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:42 am  

Ellam wrote:

Once he settles in like it took Clifford a bit he will show his class, funny KR fans was taking the mick out of him but their Fullback Coote is always injured.

That’s probably the reason Saints only offered Coote a 1 year contract? He is injury prone and misses more games than he plays. Walker could well turn out the same? Unfortunately he picks up more than his fair share of injuries.

As for Hoy. Think for me it’s been more like frustration as I was confident he is a lot better than he was showing. But I tempered that with realising he is still young and playing on the other side of the world. It always takes time. Yesterday was a big step in the right direction.

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:46 am  

Saw Elliot Minchella today, down Jenny Brough Lane, couldn't resist having a gloat (From the safety of my car).

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:46 am  

Irregs#16 wrote:

Pritchard introduced the 'squeeze' in 2016, that team had a very special bond. Satae wanted to bring it back, so they have. I liked the 'haka' style formation they did for it in front of the fans yesterday. You dont have to understand it, I don't get why you've adopted an Erasure song, but it doesn't bother me enough to comment on your forum about it

Tbf it was just an anecdotal comment at the end of me giving you two paragraphs of praise. You’ve explained it, no need for the bitterness you’ve just won and got to heady heights of 9th, enjoy it.

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:49 am  

davey41 wrote:

That’s probably the reason Saints only offered Coote a 1 year contract? He is injury prone and misses more games than he plays. Walker could well turn out the same? Unfortunately he picks up more than his fair share of injuries.

As for Hoy. Think for me it’s been more like frustration as I was confident he is a lot better than he was showing. But I tempered that with realising he is still young and playing on the other side of the world. It always takes time. Yesterday was a big step in the right direction.

Agree, probably right. Saints can have a bit more forward planning though having the luxury of attraction and a young Jack welsby waiting in the wings. Shame as coote is still a quality player, but think you need better value from quota players. Hoy will be just fine especially if you’re forwards stay on top like they did yesterday

Re: Onto Magic Weekend and Warrington. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:15 am  

Well the Wire board is a lovely read today!!