So I can’t have an opinion if I don’t go to games?..I want the club to progress as well but have been held up by Radfords contract extensions,Hodgson,Covid and Pearson does take some blame but without him we would be gone.I don’t mind your opinion but you can belittle people,just a observation and if wrong I apologies

I never said you can't have an opinion.



The problem with written opinion, it doesn't come with any emotion, like face to face, saying that i do like to take the mick at tines, IMO, some posts deserve it, mainly a bit of fun, I've certainly never bullied anyone on here.

Anyway Merry Christmas everyone, even Keith who I can see him lurking here still, despite his ban.

yeh merry Christmas to you all have a great time and thanks for all the camaraderie fun etc over the last year I'm so pleased we keep this going and thanks to to the new mods regime for cleaning things up and getting us back on track its good fun on here again. .



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Hope you all have a good one folks! Fingers crossed i can still squeeze into my shirt after the festivities

Yep echo that Pete and wish every member a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year.



Despite us all not seeing eye to eye and agreeing all the time I’m sure we all share to same eternal hope that this coming season will see much needed improvement

Nu Brown is on the way

I saw Herman Ese'ese in Hull earlier. I can confirm that he's a big lad.

Yep. Saw him at the shop signing and he's not that much smaller than Pele.

Kane Evans hutch maiava and Wayne Mcdonald were "big lads"



Think ese ese will be a good player



Hope Pele isn't a flop

I've seen Jack Ashworth in town the last few days too. Was surprised how big he was.



Nu Brown doing a bit of training with his new team mates according to his IG. He seems a proper fitness freak.

Also Jack Walker looks massive. Looks to have really bulked up

Over a 10KG gain for Walker, which for his size/stature is pretty impressive. Had read that he’d been putting a lot of extra work in.



Have to say that all of the players look in good shape.

Wayne Mcdonald was very good for us.

You still in panto mode?…personally I didn’t think he was all that good and given his nickname “handbrake” says it all….i await now another poster saying “well the stats are”

Why are you always so angry?



McDonald did well for us in his short spell otherwise it's unlikely that the reigning SL Champions would have signed him from us.



Since you mentioned it the stats are that he scored ten tries in seventeen games for us. Not a world beater but he certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside Maiava and Evans.

Tis the season to be jolly, la la lal lal la, la lal lal la.

Not angry at all and my quote about stats was proven right.He just didn’t seem to run his weight that’s all .As for the reigning s/l champions signing him,fair play but he wasn’t that standard imo

Just loves an argument, manages to disagree with everything I say, always agrees with Talentboy too, which makes me wonder too.



Agree on Mcdonald, decent player for us, we wanted to keep him, what props scores that many tries, went onto to play over 100 games for Saints, Leeds and Wigan. As you say we have has alot of worse players than him and shouldn't be held in the same company as those mentions, who were both awful.

Very good .....no chance



He was ok



Likes of Minichello and Kelly were very good wouldn't class Mcdonald near that category

Don’t love a argument at all and tbf mate,you do talk a lot of sense and I do agree with 90% of the time but if I disagree il tell you.Thats the good thing about fans opinions,I just didn’t rate him but agree about him not being as bad as the 2 you have mentioned but nowhere as good as other better 2nd rowers.Mind you,he’s not as bad as a Aussie we got in the 80s…Dave Brown had a big reputation and was a Aussie international…by god he was bloody awful.As for agreeing with talent boy…what a insult,he talks b@lls 99% of the time and the other 1% isn’t much better.

Kelly?…he was a bloody stand-off,not a 2nd rower/prop…You can’t compare them at all and stop banging on about a pack from 6/7 years ago.

:2ek9heqp



Here’s one for you



1993–99 Wakefield Trinity (Wildcats) 27 8 0 0 32

2000 Hull Sharks 13 4 0 0 16

2001 St Helens 18 4 0 0 16

2002–05 Leeds Rhinos 81 14 0 0 56

2005 Wigan Warriors 4 0 0 0 0

2005–06 Huddersfield Giants 34 1 0 0 4

Total 177 31 0 0 124

Representative

Years Team Pld T G FG P

1999 ScotlandScotland 6 0 0 0 0

2009 United Arab EmiratesUAE 2 2 0 0 8

Source



Apart from Leeds and hudds…he didn’t do much at the 2 big clubs did he ….can’t argue with stats

I was merely pointing out players who were "very good"



Mcdonald wasn't in that category for us



Just alarming how bad our pack has gotten since then 6 years isn't that long really

Funny how most of what I say ends up right





I'll say it now 3 or 4 years from now Houghton people will be like we could of done better



Yes he's a legend for tackle 52



But we'd have won more than 2 challenge cups with josh Hodgson as our 9



Can't have a 9 with no attacking threat