Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Tue May 12, 2020 9:59 am  

IR80 wrote:

People seem to forgetbthe KCOM is a community stadium, the SMC got a 50 year lease, I doubt very much they could just "kick us out".

That's what I thought. I think it's just the lease can be re-negotiated after 25 years if all parties want too.. sure I read that our agreement to play at the kcom is watertight and we can't be kicked out before

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Tue May 12, 2020 4:25 pm  

number 6 wrote:

That's what I thought. I think it's just the lease can be re-negotiated after 25 years if all parties want too.. sure I read that our agreement to play at the kcom is watertight and we can't be kicked out before

My understanding too, HCC are f'd for cash, but the KC is a capital/crown asset, the SE grants etc. would mean HCC couldn't easily sell, the area around West Park/Walton Street is a designated public space, the Carnegie Library has more conditions than it has books. the KC is falling apart, the SMC could, in theory, return it to the landlord and, dare I say it, HRI could expand into the space, compulsory purchase of everything between Argyle Street and Walton Street, a big vote winner if (lets be honest, WHEN) Covid is still around!

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Tue May 12, 2020 5:30 pm  

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IR80 wrote:

My understanding too, HCC are f'd for cash, but the KC is a capital/crown asset, the SE grants etc. would mean HCC couldn't easily sell, the area around West Park/Walton Street is a designated public space, the Carnegie Library has more conditions than it has books. the KC is falling apart, the SMC could, in theory, return it to the landlord and, dare I say it, HRI could expand into the space, compulsory purchase of everything between Argyle Street and Walton Street, a big vote winner if (lets be honest, WHEN) Covid is still around!

Like most things, it needs maintenance but its a bit far fetched to say the KC is falling apart.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Tue May 12, 2020 6:21 pm  

oooh Gravy! wrote:

[code][/code]Like most things, it needs maintenance but its a bit far fetched to say the KC is falling apart.

have you seen the elements in the roof and electric ducts, the damp in various exec lounges, the rust on the seat pillars...?

It needs a good £6m spending on it, not including the arena etc.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Wed May 13, 2020 11:00 pm  

£6m where you getting that figure from?

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu May 14, 2020 6:26 am  

A unknown superstar wrote:

£6m where you getting that figure from?

completely off the top of my head, in honesty.

Was reading up on the stadium, it cost £44m and took 14 months, the only significant investments have been in the main entrance and the arena (basically for the benefit of City).

When the new regulations as a result of Covid-19 come out I genuinely expect to see urinals disappear and physical barriers of some sort needed to enforce social distancing, some seats may need to be removed, I certainly can't see the rail/standing options being investigated much further.

It needs more than a lick of paint that is for certain. £6m may be on the top end, but that kind of money soon disappears.

HCC can go one of three ways, leave it alone and let it fall further into disrepair, invest money (they haven't got) in an asset that they can hardly be acclaimed for having sweated, or sell it to the Allams.

We are, rightly, concerned about the future of FC as a club due to the impact of Covid-19, but the stadium itself may be a luxury the council can no longer afford, especially if the Allams sell City and new owners make a realistic offer for the stadium.

Who knows what the picture will be in 8 to 12 months....

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu May 14, 2020 9:38 am  

IR80 wrote:

completely off the top of my head, in honesty.

Was reading up on the stadium, it cost £44m and took 14 months, the only significant investments have been in the main entrance and the arena (basically for the benefit of City).

When the new regulations as a result of Covid-19 come out I genuinely expect to see urinals disappear and physical barriers of some sort needed to enforce social distancing, some seats may need to be removed, I certainly can't see the rail/standing options being investigated much further.

It needs more than a lick of paint that is for certain. £6m may be on the top end, but that kind of money soon disappears.

HCC can go one of three ways, leave it alone and let it fall further into disrepair, invest money (they haven't got) in an asset that they can hardly be acclaimed for having sweated, or sell it to the Allams.

We are, rightly, concerned about the future of FC as a club due to the impact of Covid-19, but the stadium itself may be a luxury the council can no longer afford, especially if the Allams sell City and new owners make a realistic offer for the stadium.

Who knows what the picture will be in 8 to 12 months....

I'll do that work for them for £6m - no question about it

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu May 14, 2020 9:41 am  

IR80 wrote:

completely off the top of my head, in honesty.

Was reading up on the stadium, it cost £44m and took 14 months, the only significant investments have been in the main entrance and the arena (basically for the benefit of City).

When the new regulations as a result of Covid-19 come out I genuinely expect to see urinals disappear and physical barriers of some sort needed to enforce social distancing, some seats may need to be removed, I certainly can't see the rail/standing options being investigated much further.

It needs more than a lick of paint that is for certain. £6m may be on the top end, but that kind of money soon disappears.

HCC can go one of three ways, leave it alone and let it fall further into disrepair, invest money (they haven't got) in an asset that they can hardly be acclaimed for having sweated, or sell it to the Allams.

We are, rightly, concerned about the future of FC as a club due to the impact of Covid-19, but the stadium itself may be a luxury the council can no longer afford, especially if the Allams sell City and new owners make a realistic offer for the stadium.

Who knows what the picture will be in 8 to 12 months....

So basically making it up, including budgeting for spending money on meeting regulations as a result of covid, that dont even exist.

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu May 14, 2020 2:25 pm  

Wilde 3 wrote:

I'll do that work for them for £6m - no question about it

I'll give yeh a hand!

Re: Contract Talks & FCs Future : Thu May 14, 2020 4:40 pm  

Isaiah wrote:

I'll give yeh a hand!

yup, liability insurance,VAT registration, materials. I am so glad that the vast majority of people of age aren't as daft as you Isaiah....