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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:09 am  
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So many of the players we had in that squad today are making up the numbers. They will never be good enough for SL and I'd include in that some that are supposedly going to be "stars". Today shows we lack quality , depth and class but more worryingly we once again lack any sort of power dominance or aggression in the pack. We're kidding ourselves big time if we really believe that Green and co will ever lay a platform for our backs. Today was just bizarre and our expectations managed incredibly badly. Why didn't Radford say that he was just fulfilling a fixture instead of implying that the game was meaningful. And Rich Whiting feeling he has to apologise to the fans again on a day that he was in his home town supposedly celebrating his testimonial!!? He must wonder what the hell he's doing here. I felt embarrassed for him especially after he'd been quoted as saying this was a game where SL places were up for grabs. And what's Arundel done wrong? I'm sure his confidence will be sky high now having been the only senior player left on the field with the 19's and having to play second row. Did he need the minutes in his legs? Thought that applied to Talanoa , what happened there? Where was Radford during the game? I saw him and Ellis walk out at the start but he seemed to disappear after that. I'd have thought he ought to have been on the sideline trying to persuade his players to be professional and to give some direct "advice". Maybe he was translating the playbook into English?
I'm sure that AP can't be happy. Regardless of the fact that it doesn't matter because there are no points at stake it's certainly not going to persuade any waverers about getting to the KC for the first league game is it?
I feel let down , disappointed for Rich Whiting who just doesn't deserve that but regrettably not surprised.


Radford was in the main stand on the gantry (not swinging from it as far as I know) for most/all of the game. Whilst the jury has only just left the courtroom in regards to his tenure as coach he must now realise that some of his so-called backup forwards are way below the required level. I thought Watts, Bowden, Westerman and to a lesser extent Green were embarrassing in the first 20 minutes and were totally owned by the opposition Championship pack. OK we had no hooker named in the side which wasn't really helping but these players should be fined for simply failing to do their jobs to anything like the required standard. Interesting that Radford is already questioning some players' 'lifestyles' - if so-called professionals can't see their way to doing their job to the required standard they should clear off. As previously mentioned we should have been in for Carvell before now as we desperately need more top professionals playing at the expense of some of the pretenders that pass off for pro sportsmen that we have in the squad.

To people who claim 'it's only a friendly' I would say that until Radford, or whoever, can finally find enough players who actually match the tag of being a professional sportsmen then the next 50 point plus reverse in SL will never be far around the corner. It seems there's more clear out work to be done particularly on the fringes of the squad in the prop/SR areas before we can hope that that elusive entity called consistency will ever apply to our team.

In regards to Talanoa he had a sore Achilles apparently - another potentially dodgy injury for us to contend with.
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:10 am  
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:31 am  
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radford's monday rant. I'm told it will become a HDM weekly column

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Not a good idea for Radford to start publicly criticising the players so early. Signs of his inexperience here.

No mention of him accepting any of the responsibility for what happened yesterday.

Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.
Jake the Peg wrote:
radford's monday rant. I'm told it will become a HDM weekly column

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Not a good idea for Radford to start publicly criticising the players so early. Signs of his inexperience here.

No mention of him accepting any of the responsibility for what happened yesterday.

Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:38 am  
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Not a good idea for Radford to start publicly criticising the players so early. Signs of his inexperience here.

No mention of him accepting any of the responsibility for what happened yesterday.

Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.



Shades of Len Casey everyones fault but his
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:56 am  
It was refreshing that Radford didn't make excuses for his starting pack yesterday. He will be judged on how he deals with it though - time will tell.
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:12 am  
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Not a good idea for Radford to start publicly criticising the players so early. Signs of his inexperience here.

No mention of him accepting any of the responsibility for what happened yesterday.

Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.


Did the same after the Bradford defeat, not started off well for him!
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:25 am  
Feel real sorry for Rich to be let down in such a manner. Top bloke, didn't deserve that.
AP must realise now he is flogging a dead horse, its going to be a long long season. :(
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:20 am  
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as coach he must now realise that some of his so-called backup forwards are way below the required level.

I knew that last year and it worries me that he and Last didn't , it's not as though they weren't part of the set up last year after all! With one or two exceptions last season our pack were beaten by the opposition losing ground both defensively and offensively in nearly every tackle. O'Meley was the one forward that other teams worried about and he couldn't maintain his game for more than about 10 minutes at a time , understandably. The Featherstone props at least looked like prop forwards even if it was us that made them look like World beaters. Our forwards that played yesterday looked lightweight and ineffectual. To have even an average season we're going to rely on Mick Paea playing big minutes every week and not getting injured and Feka getting back to his Wigan form. Both are unlikley.
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:50 am  
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I knew that last year and it worries me that he and Last didn't , it's not as though they weren't part of the set up last year after all! With one or two exceptions last season our pack were beaten by the opposition losing ground both defensively and offensively in nearly every tackle. O'Meley was the one forward that other teams worried about and he couldn't maintain his game for more than about 10 minutes at a time , understandably. The Featherstone props at least looked like prop forwards even if it was us that made them look like World beaters. Our forwards that played yesterday looked lightweight and ineffectual. To have even an average season we're going to rely on Mick Paea playing big minutes every week and not getting injured and Feka getting back to his Wigan form. Both are unlikley.


If you’re hoping for big minutes from Paea then you’ll be disappointed, my only criticism of him was his lack of effective on the pitch time. He’s fantastic for a 15 minute spell then it tails off quickly and he becomes an easy target for attackers. For me the biggest loss you’ll have will be Lynch, 80 minute props are hard to come by he took me as a real grafter.
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Re: vs Featherstone - Whiting Testimonial : Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:29 pm  
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Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.

Bingo.
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