Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:40 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

You're missing out pay. Cooke had accepted the contract by accepting a wage, the rumours are Carvell hasn't been getting paid.

If the players hadn't been getting paid we would of heard,yes it's been paid late in the last few months but still got it.Carvells contract with the Bulls would of started on 1st December 2013 so only 2 pay days since then and as far as we know they have been paid

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:49 pm  

What's a reasonable time period though? Do we know the players weren't informed? Do we know if Carvell's made the correct legal moves within the correct time frame? Lots of assumptions being made here.

I'd imagine that employment law is heavily on Hull / Carvell's side here but it was also on Rovers / Cooke's side. How similar is this to the Huddersfield / Kopczak situation? Legal route doesn't benefit anybody & Hull want their man quickly, suspect they'll settle on a fee.

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:07 pm  

Bradford can make it very difficult if they want and I expect they are because they want a fee but they don't want an unsettled player who will unsettle the squad if made to stay so it will be a fine balance between how long can Bradford keep going and how quickly do Hull want the player.

I guess it all depends on how the RFL see it and what case Carvell can make, If I was Mr Pearson I would make a small offer of a fee 20/30k that would save face for Bradford and would get the player much quicker, but that's just me.

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:18 pm  

The bottom line is that we don't know anything. It's all pure speculation. The only thing we do know for sure is that Bradford announced in the early afternoon of 31st January that there was to be no points deduction, something the players will have taken into account when making their decisions. http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Rugby+ ... d=9&Page=1

The bottom line is that we don't know anything. It's all pure speculation. The only thing we do know for sure is that Bradford announced in the early afternoon of 31st January that there was to be no points deduction, something the players will have taken into account when making their decisions. http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Rugby+ ... d=9&Page=1

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Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:23 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

You're missing out pay. Cooke had accepted the contract by accepting a wage, the rumours are Carvell hasn't been getting paid.

The most most obvious comparison would be with Kopczak. Prior to the Keith Mason case, obviously.

The RFL, naturally enough, focus on registration rules rather than contract law. As long as Carvell informed Bradford he wasn't happy to have his contract transferred before discussions began with Hull, or nobody can prove otherwise, I can't see that the RFL will do much.

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:33 pm  

LOL at Little General Zodling on the Bradford board.

General Zod on the Bull's board. wrote:

Hull FC are a desperate club with a desperate owner and a desperate coach hence why they are talking about other club's contracted players on their website.

It's all a result of poor off-season recruitment and poor pass sales.

Don't see why Carvell or Gale would want to go to FC when their owner has already started his transition into football and he'll be jumping ship from FC before you can say "Leeds Utd".

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:37 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

LOL at Little General Zodling on the Bradford board.

Typically over egged by zod but you can't deny it does come across as a tad desperate.

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:42 pm  

Why is it? We've seen an opportunity to sign still one of the leagues best props regardless of his age.

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:44 pm  

Luke gale and gearrth carvell story in today's daily star http://imageshack.com/a/img593/9458/rtjb.jpg

Luke gale and gearrth carvell story in today's daily star http://imageshack.com/a/img593/9458/rtjb.jpg

Re: gareth carvell : Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:58 pm  

As desperate as Rovers signing Justin Poore.

Can't see how signing one of the best props in the league, especially when we are short in the props is desperate.