Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:48 pm  

bonaire wrote:

So In your opinion Danny Houghton has a skill set? He is or was just a tackle machine and the game has moved on
You see lots of different players now pick up at the play the ball.Its no longer a specialist position

Maybe a winger at the start of a set who immediately returns to the wing.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:49 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Its not a specialist position any more.

Even you can't believe that's true

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:03 pm  

Did we have an unused sub last night or did I miss Burrell come on?

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:04 pm  

mwindass wrote:

Only one I can think is Berrigan

How old was he when he moved to hooker? He was already an established international centre at the time I think.

This doesn't mean I want to try Shaul at hooker though

He started in the halfs then moved to centre but also played hooker from the bench occasionally in the NRL and for Queensland and Australia. Looking at his stats on RL project he was used a lot as an interchange due to his versatility.

I think we never so the best of him as he played a lot in the halfs due to injuries. I thought his best position was centre but he hardly played there for us.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:11 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

Of course it is still a specialist position. A hooker probably touches the ball more, has more involvements and makes more decisions than any other player on the park.

Some players have the skill set to convert into a hooker, James Roby for example, but you can't just throw anybody in there and expect to compete.

Yes answer Dave K question, and what did you post

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:14 pm  

K-Diddy wrote:

Did we have an unused sub last night or did I miss Burrell come on?

We’re gently easing him in, a two minute debut at home, followed by an eighty minute dug out education at veryfartown.

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:16 pm  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

I can't think of many if any player let alone a full back who have successfully switched position to hooker in their late 20's and made a success of it.

Hookers have their hands on the ball more than any player and probably have to make more decisions as well. People complain about Houghton's slow service, unfairly in my opinion, so what would Shaul's be like.

Perhaps Gary Peacham, in days of yore

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:47 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Are you sure about that? The attendance was 3859 and their average that year was 3666 so you're saying clubs took around 1700 travelling fans on average.

They also only had 4,000 against Leeds you saying Leeds wouldn't of took that aswell?

They're lowest crowd was 2,100 big gap from 3,800

But still doubt they're was many more than 600 last night but I do get the point about people getting back into the swing of going again esp away matches

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:07 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Really dont understand the reasoning there.
You dismiss the idea of Shaul at nine yet like the idea of playing Mcnamara at nine when he is very similar to Johnstone who most of us have written off as a replacement for Houghton.
Whilst McNamara is still young he like Johnstone lacks pace and probably will be the reason he never makes it in Super League.
We saw last night what a half back with pace can do and he at 18 is younger than Mcnamara .

Well the first problem is that Shaul isnt fit and McNamara is.

I'm not talking about this as a long term move, but for the next month or so.

McNamara has a much better skillset than Shaul to play hooker.

You seem to think all you need to play hooker is pace, so why not play Swift there?

Re: GIANTS away : Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:30 pm  

The hooket situation is Radfords fault, he should have addressed it two years ago, but he preferred to play Houghton for the full 80. Even if Houghton was out he rather play the likes of Fash, Hadley or Washbrook over Litten.

I just hope Hodgson can see how desperate we are for a hooker.

We do need another prop, but we have 6 decent props plus Bowden.

Compare this to Houghton and Johnstone, you can see hooker is a real weakness.