Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:11 am  

fc baldy wrote:

Crooks is the one that i would like to see come on...just looks a superb prospect.

STOP !! THIEF !!!

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:58 pm  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

I don't understand the obsession some have with throwing youth players in.

Personally I couldn't care less the age or origins of a player providing we have a winning team.

Its not that long ago there was a clammer for Lee and Washbrook to be promoted to the first team, apparently they were going to beat all comers. In reality the clammer came from them being young lads who were from Hull and they were nothing more than decent, solid players at best.

As stated before,wasn`t one of the reasons behind no relegation a chance to give the youngsters a chance ,without fear of relegation?
I agree with you about age,if the player performs I couldn`t give a monkeys how old he is.

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:09 pm  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

I don't understand the obsession some have with throwing youth players in.

Personally I couldn't care less the age or origins of a player providing we have a winning team.

Its not that long ago there was a clammer for Lee and Washbrook to be promoted to the first team, apparently they were going to beat all comers. In reality the clammer came from them being young lads who were from Hull and they were nothing more than decent, solid players at best.

That's not what I was saying, more the point that we haven't promoted the younger squad players when 1st team players are injured. Instead we have shuffled 4 or 5 players around to accommodate 1 injury, unlike Saints for example who have brought in a younger player of the same position as that of the injured.
As you say it doesn't matter their age, if they're good enough they're old enough but we have to have the faith in them when the opportunity comes.

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:04 pm  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

I don't understand the obsession some have with throwing youth players in.

Personally I couldn't care less the age or origins of a player providing we have a winning team.

Its not that long ago there was a clammer for Lee and Washbrook to be promoted to the first team, apparently they were going to beat all comers. In reality the clammer came from them being young lads who were from Hull and they were nothing more than decent, solid players at best.

When you don't develop your own players you end up having to pay over the odds to get them from elsewhere and you get a poor squad for your spend like we have in recent years

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:06 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

When you don't develop your own players you end up having to pay over the odds to get them from elsewhere and you get a poor squad for your spend like we have in recent years

Spot on. The thing we don't really know is to what extent our poor record in recent years of bringing academy players through is due to underinvestment, and/or not enough quality in the players themselves, and/or Agar's reluctance to give them any gametime unless absolutely forced by injuries. A combination of all three, certainly.

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:13 pm  

tommyfromhull wrote: "We have new ideas, new faces and when you throw that into the melting pot hopefully we can come up with the recipe that will take us to the top of the table in the next few years." Blimey, a few is after 3 and before a lot! Still, no pressure then. http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html?

tommyfromhull wrote: "We have new ideas, new faces and when you throw that into the melting pot hopefully we can come up with the recipe that will take us to the top of the table in the next few years." Blimey, a few is after 3 and before a lot! Still, no pressure then. http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html?

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:44 pm  

fc baldy wrote:

Crooks is the one that i would like to see come on...just looks a superb prospect.

I agree mate, even when he has a quiet game there is something about his game and ability that stands out. I've absolutely no doubt he'll make the transition to SL. I did say that about Jack Briscoe, too, though. I think our youth system has failed him. He may get a shot under the new regime, but I think his development has stood still for the last 2 seasons.

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:41 pm  

Phil O'Stein wrote:

I agree mate, even when he has a quiet game there is something about his game and ability that stands out. I've absolutely no doubt he'll make the transition to SL. I did say that about Jack Briscoe, too, though. I think our youth system has failed him. He may get a shot under the new regime, but I think his development has stood still for the last 2 seasons.

The fact he kept getting moved from wing to full back killed his development.

Reece Lyne is heading the same way too by getting moved from wing to fullback and in some games even at centre, no continuity at all for him.

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:28 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Clubs need to develop their own players, if everyone decided not to then they game would collapse. So at some point they have to be tried, no one is saying they will be amazing talents but we won't know how good or bad they are until they are given a chance.

All clubs need to develop and giving youth which is ready and good enough an opportunity, no problem.

However our forum is littered with calls for the likes of Green, Nicklas, Crooks, J Briscoe etc to be chucked in. No so long ago it was Lyne, earlier than this I gave the examples of Lee and Washbrook. This increase in expectation is just heaping pressure on these kids before they have set foot inthe first team.

Re: Gentle's clean sheet : Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:44 am  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

All clubs need to develop and giving youth which is ready and good enough an opportunity, no problem.

However our forum is littered with calls for the likes of Green, Nicklas, Crooks, J Briscoe etc to be chucked in. No so long ago it was Lyne, earlier than this I gave the examples of Lee and Washbrook. This increase in expectation is just heaping pressure on these kids before they have set foot inthe first team.

Lee was on a hiding to nothing by having to step in after the fallout from Judas jumping ship & Washy is a 13 but has rarely been played there.
Loose forward has been one of our more secure positions & so his chances have been rare there, otherwise I think he would have developed into a good 13.