: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:11 am  

I was not saying J Sharp would play an expansive game and yes Hudds are now playing great rugby under Brown.

All I am saying is to try and change things quickly input other than that of Agar has to come from somewhere. In some ways that is probably Hull's problem both Agar and Sharp are to similar in coaching style.

I do remember Huddersfield under Sharp almost putting us out of the playoffs in 2007 by moving the ball through numerous hands each tackle, it was probably that big tackle by Carvell that changed the game.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:58 am  

We have the ability to play decent stuff but it never seems to be a priority with us. We seem to prefer to just try and grind a win out. After a positive start to the season we actually played some good stuff and scored some good inventive trys. We just seem to have gone away from that and tried to keep it tight which isn't working now as the pack are tired. I do think the conditions played a part on Saturday night but we should still have been better.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:00 am  

I thought on Saturday our biggest problem was Berrigan and then Houghton, both were shocking and that is where Quins won the game. We had no direction, speed or decent service from dummy half and the Quins did through Randall. Also we looked too slow in the forwards whereas Quins had far mroe mobility.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:02 am  

PAUL M wrote:

I thought on Saturday our biggest problem was Berrigan and then Houghton, both were shocking and that is where Quins won the game. We had no direction, speed or decent service from dummy half and the Quins did through Randall. Also we looked too slow in the forwards whereas Quins had far mroe mobility.

Got to agree. Berrigans passing was really poor in particular.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:04 am  

Robbo4 wrote:

Got to agree. Berrigans passing was really poor in particular.

I was poor and slow and he never got out of dummy half to engage their forwards, very disappointing display.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:08 am  

Following on from the KCFM phone in a couple of weeks back..........what are all these moves Thorman and Horne have come up with that agar and sharp can't keep up with???

Can we see them anytime soon??

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:01 pm  

Scoot
Scoot
Drive
Drive
Kick

Our gameplan from our own try line to 30 metres from the oppositions.

Scoot
Drive
Drive
Wedge play/Give it to Manu and hope he can do something
Grubber

Our gameplan in the redzone.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:44 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Hard to disagree with any of that TBH.

Indeed. At the same time i dont think its massively expansive rugby we want, its just a bit of variation away from the 4 or 5 drives and a kick.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:18 pm  

Personally I've got to the point where I don't really care if we playing boring or exciting rugby, as long as its done well. If we play boring rugby, and do it fantastically and win a trophy then I will be thrilled. Point is, we aren't playing boring rugby very well at the moment

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:43 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

Indeed. At the same time i dont think its massively expansive rugby we want, its just a bit of variation away from the 4 or 5 drives and a kick.

Exactly. I don't personally think it's too much to ask for either the players or coaching staff to recognise when something isn't working and try something different. How many other sides play pretty much the same tactics regardless of the opposition? Unless you're good enough to play your own game and let the opposition worry about you (which we aren't) you should be looking to exploit weaknesses in the opposition's team and varying tactics to suit. I see few examples of us doing this.