Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:28 pm  

giddyupoldfella wrote:

What would a new coach have to achieve for the fans not to be asking for his head after 1 season?

What if we got a new coach, and he finished outside the play offs first season, would you want him fired?

Not to be relegated would be a start.
I don't know why you're being so touchy about it.
I'm sure the coach would be afforded time in his 1st and possibly 2nd season as Radford was.

Yes he won 2 cups but realistically the gloss has now come off over the last 2 seasons.

Time for a fresh start and a new impetus.
It would probably rejuvenate the fan base too, a sense of excitement a venture into the unknown.
We currently know what we're going to get and that is predominantly boredom, turned off and general apathy.
I still go out of a sense of duty but not with any expectations or excitement any more.

I could cope finishing outside the playoffs if I could see there was an improvement in our style of play and it was evident new systems were bedding in.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:31 pm  

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Smith has got his hands tied taking over someone elses team, he's had to rely on wheeling and dealing with last minute loans, and even then has had bad luck with his biggest move in Parcell getting injured for the rest of the year.

Smith has won 2 SL's, 3 Challenge Cups, 1 League Leaders shield and 1 World Club Challenge and also coached England. His CV is massively better than Radfords.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:36 pm  

giddyupoldfella wrote:

What would a new coach have to achieve for the fans not to be asking for his head after 1 season?

What if we got a new coach, and he finished outside the play offs first season, would you want him fired?

It's not just the results it's the style of play, i'd be content with missing the playoffs one year if I could see we were improving.

The squad is also a lot better than what Radford inherited in 2014, the older players we do have are all moving on, leaving an average age of mid to late 20s which is when players should be at their peak. Shouldn't take a lot for a new coach to lift things.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:37 pm  

Bombed Out wrote:

Not to be relegated would be a start.
I don't know why you're being so touchy about it.
I'm sure the coach would be afforded time in his 1st and possibly 2nd season as Radford was.

Yes he won 2 cups but realistically the gloss has now come off over the last 2 seasons.

Time for a fresh start and a new impetus.
It would probably rejuvenate the fan base too, a sense of excitement a venture into the unknown.
We currently know what we're going to get and that is predominantly boredom, turned off and general apathy.
I still go out of a sense of duty but not with any expectations or excitement any more.

I could cope finishing outside the playoffs if I could see there was an improvement in our style of play and it was evident new systems were bedding in.

Do you have a coach in mind?

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:43 pm  

We need to be better defensively, better in attack and much more consistent with our performances. If we do that and finish outside the 5 because other clubs have more money and resources than us the so be it

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:26 pm  

giddyupoldfella wrote:

Do you have a coach in mind?

That's not my job nor do I know who would apply if the position was vacant.
I know Jason Demetriou is well thought of in Australia and Watson has done a good job at Salford.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:39 pm  

giddyupoldfella wrote:

Do you have a coach in mind?

If the job was up for grabs, which it wouldn’t be, I think you’d be amazed who would apply. Despite what MRS BARISTA says we are perceived as a well run and funded club, unfortunately the present incumbent appears to be wasting it’s assets.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:55 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

If the job was up for grabs, which it wouldn’t be, I think you’d be amazed who would apply. Despite what MRS BARISTA says we are perceived as a well run and funded club, unfortunately the present incumbent appears to be wasting it’s assets.

Where have I said we aren't well run? I've said other clubs have greater resources/assets, which I don't think anyone has countered.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:00 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Where have I said we aren't well run? I've said other clubs have greater resources/assets, which I don't think anyone has countered.

There you go again, picking on a particular quote. I said “well run AND FUNDED”. We have great resources/assets. A bloody good team, that’s being misused.

Re: Radford out : Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:11 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

There you go again, picking on a particular quote. I said “well run AND FUNDED”. We have great resources/assets. A bloody good team, that’s being misused.

We have a good fanbase, not the best in the comp, but up there. But there still seems a reluctance to accept that there's a reason why 4 other clubs file full accounts and we get an exemption. We like to see ourselves as challengers, and with what Lee, AP and co have achieved in recent years, against the odds really, that's understandable. But the grip on Super League by these 4 has remained for years and I would again fancy that this year's title race won't change that, as much as we all would like that to happen.