Re: Season over ? : Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:27 pm  

We can look back at those seven in a row defeats and think if only .

Re: Season over ? : Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:36 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

That's put us out of our misery at least

Don't worry there's more to come next season.

Re: Season over ? : Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:42 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

That's put us out of our misery at least

We can all sleep easy until next February.

Re: Season over ? : Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:48 pm  

A home win over the Loiners would perk us up.

Re: Season over ? : Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:13 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

A home win over the Loiners would perk us up.

We all hate Leeds, we all hate Leeds

Re: Season over ? : Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:50 pm  

Need to win one of our last four or smith has taken us backwards this season

Re: Season over ? : Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:07 am  

Steve0 wrote:

Need to win one of our last four or smith has taken us backwards this season

Id agree but I also think our squad was weaker for this season that the last 2, also losing Hoy has been a big blow.

Id start to play the kids now, good chance to see whos ready for 2024 or not. No point playing players like Lovodua and Dwyer who are going and not playing well.

Re: Season over ? : Mon Aug 28, 2023 3:57 pm  

I think most of us would agree we are now in (very) long-shot territory in regard to top-six hopes!

Whether or not we make the six, I think the key over these last four games is, what is our attitude and commitment like?

TS should be using these four games to drill into the squad that our aim should always be to win the game which is happening in front of us, irrespective of opponent or surrounding circumstance.

The very best always seek to win, at all times, which tends naturally to lead to a winning mentality which in turn produces a successful side. The aim should be to have that mentality as an ingrained attitude running through the club as a whole and not on some ad-hoc basis.
Over the past 5/6 years we have been guilty of the complete opposite to this attitude. We've reached a point where the play-offs seem out of reach and the towel has been thrown in, leading to some horrendous 8/9 games in the closing weeks of the season, as we've sat and suffered in abject horror.

Tony Smith has twice changed the mentality of under-achieving clubs; at Leeds, twenty years ago, and (to a slightly lesser extent) at Warrington. Can he repeat it for a third time with us?
Only time will tell on that, but this next month seems as good a place as any to alter that mind-set which is the underlying source of why we, as a club, never quite seem to be where we all think we should be. All journeys have to start somewhere!

Re: Season over ? : Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:37 pm  

BP1 wrote:

I think most of us would agree we are now in (very) long-shot territory in regard to top-six hopes!

Whether or not we make the six, I think the key over these last four games is, what is our attitude and commitment like?

TS should be using these four games to drill into the squad that our aim should always be to win the game which is happening in front of us, irrespective of opponent or surrounding circumstance.

The very best always seek to win, at all times, which tends naturally to lead to a winning mentality which in turn produces a successful side. The aim should be to have that mentality as an ingrained attitude running through the club as a whole and not on some ad-hoc basis.
Over the past 5/6 years we have been guilty of the complete opposite to this attitude. We've reached a point where the play-offs seem out of reach and the towel has been thrown in, leading to some horrendous 8/9 games in the closing weeks of the season, as we've sat and suffered in abject horror.

Tony Smith has twice changed the mentality of under-achieving clubs; at Leeds, twenty years ago, and (to a slightly lesser extent) at Warrington. Can he repeat it for a third time with us?
Only time will tell on that, but this next month seems as good a place as any to alter that mind-set which is the underlying source of why we, as a club, never quite seem to be where we all think we should be. All journeys have to start somewhere!

I think the effort is there just some players arent top6 quality, and we have been a prop short all season so a lot of weeks the pack isnt on top and that makes it a lot harder.

Re: Season over ? : Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:03 pm  

UllFC wrote:

I think the effort is there just some players arent top6 quality, and we have been a prop short all season so a lot of weeks the pack isnt on top and that makes it a lot harder.

Yes, I would agree. Certainly, on Saturday our lack of 'grunt' up front meant it was relatively easy for Wire to keep their defensive shape intact, which in turn means we are always looking for Clifford (or someone else) to pull out a miracle play to create a gap. Losing Truman in the first half hardly helped matters either.

Again, I would agree that since Good Friday the effort has been excellent, even in the games we have lost. The lack of genuine quality in the side is, I'm afraid, something we can't address over the next four weeks, we have to live with it for the time being.

As long as that effort level is maintained, then we should hopefully come away with at least a couple more wins. What none of us want to see is a repeat of recent years where our last few opponents have had carte-blanch to do whatever they damn well felt like doing (Wakefield 2021 or rovers 2022 for instance). That's the change in attitude I was hinting at in my first post, being committed even when it looks, on the surface at least, like there is little tangible to play for.