Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:29 am  

dddooommm wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up. Have you got this weeks lottery numbers as well?

You missed "apparently" and "if it's true" then?

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:55 am  

dddooommm wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up. Have you got this weeks lottery numbers as well?

I'm just putting down a bit of what a current player has txt me. Not saying it's gospel but I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:14 pm  

major black wrote:

I'm just putting down a bit of what a current player has txt me. Not saying it's gospel but I have no reason to disbelieve him.

In that case I wouldn't ask him what the time is unless you have your own watch to back it up.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:34 pm  

rugbyreddog wrote:

In that case I wouldn't ask him what the time is unless you have your own watch to back it up.

Can you please confirm he has been paid. Thanks.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:21 pm  

Think this dispute will only end one way and its going to be a particularly nasty one I'd guess at the moment.

The TUPE laws might cover the contractual side, but as Garreth knows full well from his previous time at Hull FC, its the registration document with the RFL that is important...

I wonder if he fully remembers signing the last contract with Hull FC under duress before his agent told him to withdraw it, only to discover he couldn't due to it being registered at Red Hall? Amazing how that has not been mentioned in any of the posts I've read.

I also wonder if he'll remember being told that he'd end up rotting in the reserves until nobody had room in the cap unless someone forked out a transfer fee? Again something that has conveniently been missed off.

Finally, I wonder if Garreth will remember turning up to the recent fans photoshoot at Odsal 2days after the transfer of club assets to the newco? He certainly seemed quite happy then wearing all his Bulls kit proudly I would have surely thought that someone unhappy in their employment and potentially in dispute would have given that kind of thing a miss???

Or perhaps its just the fact that Andy Clarke fancied another payday like he did with various other players???

Either way, I hope for the sake of both clubs this is resolved quickly so that we can all move on to more important business.

Roll on next week

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:31 pm  

bullinenemyland wrote:

Think this dispute will only end one way and its going to be a particularly nasty one I'd guess at the moment.

The TUPE laws might cover the contractual side, but as Garreth knows full well from his previous time at Hull FC, its the registration document with the RFL that is important...

I wonder if he fully remembers signing the last contract with Hull FC under duress before his agent told him to withdraw it, only to discover he couldn't due to it being registered at Red Hall? Amazing how that has not been mentioned in any of the posts I've read.

I also wonder if he'll remember being told that he'd end up rotting in the reserves until nobody had room in the cap unless someone forked out a transfer fee? Again something that has conveniently been missed off.

Finally, I wonder if Garreth will remember turning up to the recent fans photoshoot at Odsal 2days after the transfer of club assets to the newco? He certainly seemed quite happy then wearing all his Bulls kit proudly I would have surely thought that someone unhappy in their employment and potentially in dispute would have given that kind of thing a miss???

Or perhaps its just the fact that Andy Clarke fancied another payday like he did with various other players???

Either way, I hope for the sake of both clubs this is resolved quickly so that we can all move on to more important business.

Roll on next week

I have posted that he did the same to us for wire...he wants away from your club because he's got bills to pay & wants to be happy playing in his final years..next season he might not even be in SL if you get relegated have you thought of that? He's an FC player its just a case of if he can walkaway from the bulls so it doesn't cost his new employers a penny & a liable court case..if so he could also face a ban for approaching FC.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:32 pm  

hullbg wrote:

Knowing us we are probably paying him double

Only Jake the Peg knows his wage. Silly billy.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:37 pm  

bullinenemyland wrote:

Think this dispute will only end one way and its going to be a particularly nasty one I'd guess at the moment.

The TUPE laws might cover the contractual side, but as Garreth knows full well from his previous time at Hull FC, its the registration document with the RFL that is important...

I wonder if he fully remembers signing the last contract with Hull FC under duress before his agent told him to withdraw it, only to discover he couldn't due to it being registered at Red Hall? Amazing how that has not been mentioned in any of the posts I've read.

I also wonder if he'll remember being told that he'd end up rotting in the reserves until nobody had room in the cap unless someone forked out a transfer fee? Again something that has conveniently been missed off.

Finally, I wonder if Garreth will remember turning up to the recent fans photoshoot at Odsal 2days after the transfer of club assets to the newco? He certainly seemed quite happy then wearing all his Bulls kit proudly I would have surely thought that someone unhappy in their employment and potentially in dispute would have given that kind of thing a miss???

Or perhaps its just the fact that Andy Clarke fancied another payday like he did with various other players???

Either way, I hope for the sake of both clubs this is resolved quickly so that we can all move on to more important business.

Roll on next week

I think you need to be looking a bit closer to home for the reasons behind all this. I really hope the new owners can sort out the mess I really do as SL without Bradford Bulls would be a unthinkable.

I agree with your last point though.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:39 pm  

If I moved to a company and within a few months there was a chance that the company could go bust or after a year and I would lose my job, i would be looking to move to a more stable company, especially if another company wanted me.

Carvell is 32 and this might his last chance to get a good contract, he has a family to think of, so I don't think he is doing anything wrong expect look after himself, similar to when he left Hull, he wanted to better his career rather than work under Agar.

If Mcrae and Gentle knew what they were doing in terms of recruitment he would already be here and this wouldn't be happening.

Re: gareth carvell : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:41 pm  

bullinenemyland wrote:

Think this dispute will only end one way and its going to be a particularly nasty one I'd guess at the moment.

The TUPE laws might cover the contractual side, but as Garreth knows full well from his previous time at Hull FC, its the registration document with the RFL that is important...

I wonder if he fully remembers signing the last contract with Hull FC under duress before his agent told him to withdraw it, only to discover he couldn't due to it being registered at Red Hall? Amazing how that has not been mentioned in any of the posts I've read.

I also wonder if he'll remember being told that he'd end up rotting in the reserves until nobody had room in the cap unless someone forked out a transfer fee? Again something that has conveniently been missed off.

Finally, I wonder if Garreth will remember turning up to the recent fans photoshoot at Odsal 2days after the transfer of club assets to the newco? He certainly seemed quite happy then wearing all his Bulls kit proudly I would have surely thought that someone unhappy in their employment and potentially in dispute would have given that kind of thing a miss???

Or perhaps its just the fact that Andy Clarke fancied another payday like he did with various other players???

Either way, I hope for the sake of both clubs this is resolved quickly so that we can all move on to more important business.

Roll on next week

You sound very bitter!

Bradford Bulls 2014 (registered at Company House in November 2013, 7 weeks before the takeover), still aren't even a SL club....

Bradford officials will meet with the RFL today to seek ratification of the change of ownership and transferral of the club’s RFL membership and Super League licence