Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:03 am  

There's no point even speculating who would come in, we don't have the money, it would be Grix till end of the season.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:03 am  

mwindass wrote:

Josh Hannay
Michael Monghan
Lee Briers
David Tangata-Toa
Ben Hornby
Dean Young
Matt King

Good assistant coaches, but... the $64 dollar question is.....
Which one has leadership and man- management skills??

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:08 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

There's no point even speculating who would come in, we don't have the money, it would be Grix till end of the season.

Totally agree and his record at Halifax doesn't exactly fill you with confidence.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:16 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

There's no point even speculating who would come in, we don't have the money, it would be Grix till end of the season.

there's no point speculating IF AP ,would even appoint any Assistants to help Grix..
On a sidenote, Does anyone know if Seamus McCallion is still at the club??
No mention of him on the clubs website...

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:34 am  

[quote="The games afoot"]

I think your comments are childish and desperate, I was born in 1953 so have seen more than most, and insults don't really have any credibility on fans forums so I resist a comeback on your comments.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:38 am  

weaver93 wrote:

there's no point speculating IF AP ,would even appoint any Assistants to help Grix..
On a sidenote, Does anyone know if Seamus McCallion is still at the club??
No mention of him on the clubs website...

Seamus left, not 100% sure why. I know there was some Issues with how he managed Hoy’s hamstring. A few people thought he was too old school with his approaches.

I’m not a big believer in sacking coaches before their 3rd season but as I said when we appointed Smith I was unsure. It’s the same with Smith at Leeds, they appear to want to play pure rugby and subsequently ignore the stuff that wins games such as the wrestle and set completion.

I wouldn’t be distraught if the club decided to move him on. For me the options are:

TS moves to a DOR role and we bring someone like Lee briers over from Aus. I was impressed what he did at Wigan and then Brisbane.

We bring in an experienced coach like Kearney or Wane but that’s sadly not realistic IMO.

We look at an agreement with Salford where Rowley comes end of the season. Think he’s got credentials to get an underperforming side firing. It’s just whether they’ll let him move on and if we have the £££ to convince them.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:45 am  

weaver93 wrote:

Good assistant coaches, but... the $64 dollar question is.....
Which one has leadership and man- management skills??

This is certainly a quandary for the club and one reason they have to think very carefully about what they do at this. It can't just be about who is available should Smith go and hoping they can produce better results. There has to be a plan in place and a suitable candidate to fit those plans. What is going to galvanise the team in the long term? Do they want a motivator or innovator that inspires the players for example? A hard no nonsense taskmaster that will whip them into shape? We can't risk making a knee-jerk response.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:47 am  

Hullrealist wrote:

We look at an agreement with Salford where Rowley comes end of the season. Think he’s got credentials to get an underperforming side firing. It’s just whether they’ll let him move on and if we have the £££ to convince them.

Why would he come though? He could stay at Salford where he’s respected by the players & supporters, possibly leading to a move to a bigger club. Or he could come here, have the players decide whether they want to perform for him or not, if they don’t the fans would turn & end up calling for him to be sacked ruining his reputation. No brainer to me.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:47 am  

Rowley would be ideal, proved he can work on a small budget and get people playing. Good at recruiting the right players.

But would he come here and would we be able to afford him, sadly think the answer to both is no.

Re: Smith - should he stay or should he go? : Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:54 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Rowley would be ideal, proved he can work on a small budget and get people playing. Good at recruiting the right players.

But would he come here and would we be able to afford him, sadly think the answer to both is no.

I’d agree, especially as now Salford seem to have a few positives coming out of the club. Just down to how quickly they can financially steady the ship.

However, one thing we can say is we won’t sell our best assets and should be financially a lot stronger after paying off the Covid loan. We’ve taken a similar approach to Wakey & Cas to steady the ship and Cas appear to be claiming they’ll have a lot bigger playing budget next year. The hull job must be daunting for coaches now but surely they must see it as a job with so much potential

Wonder if Richard Agar fancies coming back. Nothing would unite out fan base like hating him