Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:16 pm  

Would Tony go after Leeming if he’s fell out with Rohan?
Didn’t Leeming leave the Giants under a cloud as well?

Always thought this was a year we just had to get through. TS would have been looking at next season when he got appointed, as this mob cant play how he wants them to.

[Chris71]

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:55 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Would Tony go after Leeming if he’s fell out with Rohan?
Didn’t Leeming leave the Giants under a cloud as well?

Always thought this was a year we just had to get through. TS would have been looking at next season when he got appointed, as this mob cant play how he wants them to.

I might be an odd one out here but I'd actually be underwhelmed if we signed Leeming as I don't think he would be much of an improvement, granted he can put in decent performances but he also puts in a fair amount of anonymous performances too. It would also seem he's not the ideal type of team player we need attitude wise judging by his Leeds exit.

As you say we all knew this was most likely a season we would have to get through before any real and substantial changes were made to the playing group. Think TS will have certainly seen enough to know that a great number are just not able cut it for whatever reasons despite giving them all a clean slate. get the impression a few have already retired in their minds and others know they will be leaving at the seasons end.

Wonder if Wakey are still in a generous mood and would be willing to do another swap deal this week, Evans for Whitbread or Lovodua for Tanginoa or both

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:15 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

To be honest I'm in two minds whilst on the one hand I agree that as he has contract he has a right to see this out yet on the other I can see the clubs position. Personally think Houghton should have been honest with himself and the club and not taken up the option of another year as he sadly is just not up to it anymore. Whoever at the club allowed the situation that an aging player had an option in their favour rather than the clubs in the first place wants to be removed from all further and future recruitment.

Radford’s left

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:44 pm  

Hullrealist wrote:

I was working on who was off contract in SL, I forgot Leeming (but would prefer Clark if possible, we certainly have the cap available that ST Helen’s and Warrington don’t).

Ashworth was supposed to be class but has stagnated a bit and hopefully a move will bring best out of him.

Issue with wheeler dealing is we have to have players the other team wants and most of our on contract players I’d want to keep around

I’m just not sure if we have the financial power to bring players over from NRL and reserve grade is a risk.

I’d actually be pretty happy with bell I think. Efficient player who st Helen’s fans like

There was a rumour that Clark was interesting St Helens but can see Leeming going there if he's only going to the NRL for a year .

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:14 pm  

Hullrealist wrote:

I was working on who was off contract in SL, I forgot Leeming (but would prefer Clark if possible, we certainly have the cap available that ST Helen’s and Warrington don’t).

Ashworth was supposed to be class but has stagnated a bit and hopefully a move will bring best out of him.

Issue with wheeler dealing is we have to have players the other team wants and most of our on contract players I’d want to keep around

I’m just not sure if we have the financial power to bring players over from NRL and reserve grade is a risk.

I’d actually be pretty happy with bell I think. Efficient player who st Helen’s fans like

I do expect Saints to have a very large chunk of cap available for next year, with Hopoate, Roby, LMS and Mata'utia all expected to be leaving, and further question marks over Ritson, Hurrell, Bell and Norman. We are likely to be after a centre, wing, hooker and prop being the likely areas we look to recruit in (and maybe another backrow).

Bell is okay, full of enthusiasm. Seems very limited in every position other than lock though

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:46 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

I do expect Saints to have a very large chunk of cap available for next year, with Hopoate, Roby, LMS and Mata'utia all expected to be leaving, and further question marks over Ritson, Hurrell, Bell and Norman. We are likely to be after a centre, wing, hooker and prop being the likely areas we look to recruit in (and maybe another backrow).

Bell is okay, full of enthusiasm. Seems very limited in every position other than lock though

We needs a second row, is Mata'utia going home?

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:07 pm  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote: We needs a second row, is Mata'utia going home? Unfortunately so; This is my last year in England and hopefully there is some interest back home here and to getting back and playing with someone here, but if not - it is what it is. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... s-26215220

Marcus's Bicycle wrote: We needs a second row, is Mata'utia going home? Unfortunately so; This is my last year in England and hopefully there is some interest back home here and to getting back and playing with someone here, but if not - it is what it is. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... s-26215220

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:41 pm  

Such a small amount of talent available with everyone buying from the same pool.
Hopefully Smith can be creative.
We just have to hold our nerve and get through this year. At least the never ending jam tomorrow looks more promising with a proven head coach in place finally.

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:39 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Such a small amount of talent available with everyone buying from the same pool.
Hopefully Smith can be creative.
We just have to hold our nerve and get through this year. At least the never ending jam tomorrow looks more promising with a proven head coach in place finally.

Aye , Going be a bumpy ride but hopefully .Better days to come .

Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:17 pm  

My one hope is that we sign players who will offer value throughout the whole of their contract. Too often we sign a player at or past their peak and get 1-2 good years out of them before their cap space is wasted.

Hoy & Clifford for example should be better players at the end of their contract than now. I’d rather be concerned about needing to find the cap space to keep them