: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:27 pm  

Horne is never a centre,never has been,he needs to be in the middle of the park where he can run at the forwards,I see all the nutters are out again,we have won the challenge cup and been grand finalists in the last two years,HOW!!!!!,soon as we start winning again,this thread will be in the bin with the rest of the poop posted on here.

: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:28 pm  

IMO we dont need '2Aussie half backs'. Its the current roles that isnt for Horne not the position.

1 class Number 7, Horne at 6 and Cooke at 13 will do for me.

Re: How MUCH do we want a Half Back : Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:32 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

I don't understand how you can defend Horney to the max and then post this mate.

IMO what we are missing more is a kicking game. When our forwards lose we just crumble like a biscuit and have no kicking game to potentially turn around that momentum or give us a sniff of field position.

I don't know if Deacon would be the long term answer but he has a kicking game I'd love at Hull.

I think you have stated the obvious there. But that probelm doesn't just occur at Hull does it? If a team is on the back foot and have no momentum then I think most half backs struggle for a kicking game. Where was Sean Long's kicking game when we played saints? I'll tell you, he didn't have one because his forwards were getting bossed, the same applies to all. Deacon as been very lucky during his career to play behind a massive pack who the majority of the time have come out on top.

[Kosh]

Re: How MUCH do we want a Half Back : Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:59 pm  

pmarrow wrote:

I don't understand how you can defend Horney to the max and then post this mate.

Have you actually read anything I've been posting about Horne?

pmarrow wrote:

IMO what we are missing more is a kicking game. When our forwards lose we just crumble like a biscuit and have no kicking game to potentially turn around that momentum or give us a sniff of field position.

The kicking game is one of the issues, and an important one. I don't happen to think you can carry a player for their kicking game alone nowadays, and I don't feel Deacon brings much else to the table.

pmarrow wrote:

I don't know if Deacon would be the long term answer but he has a kicking game I'd love at Hull.

He is not the long term answer. At all. I'd love to see a quality kicking game at Hull, but not at the expense of everything else. What I'd like to see is us signing a top-notch halfback to take us forward. That rules Deacon out IMO.

Feel free to differ.

Re: How MUCH do we want a Half Back : Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:04 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Have you actually read anything I've been posting about Horne?


The kicking game is one of the issues, and an important one. I don't happen to think you can carry a player for their kicking game alone nowadays, and I don't feel Deacon brings much else to the table.


He is not the long term answer. At all. I'd love to see a quality kicking game at Hull, but not at the expense of everything else. What I'd like to see is us signing a top-notch halfback to take us forward. That rules Deacon out IMO.

Feel free to differ.

I quite agree. Deacon for Horne would strengthen one area whilst weakening others. A backward step, IMO.

I do think we need a half back bringing in for next season, but I'd like to see a top quality one. No point replacing one average halfback with another.

Re: How MUCH do we want a Half Back : Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:14 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

I quite agree. Deacon for Horne would strengthen one area whilst weakening others. A backward step, IMO.

I do think we need a half back bringing in for next season, but I'd like to see a top quality one. No point replacing one average halfback with another.

Backwards step indeed, all we would have would be a kicking game

: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:02 pm  

Thanks for a good thread everyone, CONCLUSION : WE DON'T NEED a new half back at the expense of anyone in the squad this year - let's now see how we do - Until then - lets park the half back and Horne debate.

: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:14 pm  

Great Thread Neighbour

kimmorley : Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:03 pm  

been told today,that we are trying to off load domic off the quota to bring in kimmorley.anybody else heard the same.

Re: kimmorley : Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:11 pm  

shippo wrote:

been told today,that we are trying to off load domic off the quota to bring in kimmorley.anybody else heard the same.

havent heard it, but would be a gamble worth taking. Domic tries hard and is a good player, but is retiring at the end of the year anyway...

and whilst Kimmorley has had a couple of poor seasons, if Hull could even get him to 75% of his best, he'd be deadly in superleague.

a lot of if buts and maybes about that rumour though, it'd require Domic to be released (and paid off) and obviously Kimmorley would need releasing early, then theres the salary cap etc