Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:14 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

That'll be the Costello that was passed over as a Council option as it wouldn't get planning permission would it? Some over there, eh?

How recently?

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:17 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

How recently?

Why? Do you feel things will have changed?

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:21 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

Why? Do you feel things will have changed?

If you mean a couple of years ago, probably not. If you're talking about a decade or more, and since then the council, who grant planning consent, have offered it with consent for sporting activities, then definitely yes. Planning policy and consent considerations and decisions do change over time in line with alternative options and new developments.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:55 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

It hasn't been a Council decision as such, more the attitude of one individual seems to have lost the City potential investors at a time when finances are tight.

You appear to have cloth ears at either side of your jam jar spectacles.

The meeting was not just Geraghty and Allam. I'm still waiting, over a week later, for your acknowledgement that, in fact, the council were more than represented - by experts - when I posted this last Friday:

WormInHand wrote:

On the contrary. The two Allams were in a three hour meeting with Cllr Geraghty:"Portfolio: Leisure & Culture (Responsible for Youth Services, Sports Development, Culture, Leisure and Libraries and Promotion as a destination for visitors)" and Cllr Bayes: "Portfolio: Economic Regeneration & Employment (Responsible for Major capital economic regeneration projects, strategic planning, Siemens Development, telecommunications and connectivity, promotion as a destination including for businesses)" . Also present were three "vastly experienced" officers who are currently negotiating the Siemens deal.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:03 pm  

WormInHand wrote:

You appear to have cloth ears at either side of your jam jar spectacles.

The meeting was not just Geraghty and Allam. I'm still waiting, over a week later, for your acknowledgement that, in fact, the council were more than represented - by experts - when I posted this last Friday:

Answered within a short time of the last time you posted it cloth head.

I'll not bore everyone by posting the same answer to the same response.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:06 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

If you mean a couple of years ago, probably not. If you're talking about a decade or more, and since then the council, who grant planning consent, have offered it with consent for sporting activities, then definitely yes. Planning policy and consent considerations and decisions do change over time in line with alternative options and new developments.

Policy may change, but it's a slow and dependent on the strategy. If you're claiming the circumstance have changed and things such as the potential traffic problems have been resolved, I'd be interested to read them.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:12 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

I'll not bore everyone by posting the same answer to the same response.

Why not? You've done nothing but chant the same mantra from the moment you joined the discussion

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:15 pm  

My Uncle Harry wrote:

Policy may change, but it's a slow and dependent on the strategy. If you're claiming the circumstance have changed and things such as the potential traffic problems have been resolved, I'd be interested to read them.

You've still not answered my question. I assume you are saying that 10+ years ago, there were planning (mainly traffic) reasons why a stadium for all the city's professional clubs couldn't be sited at Costello. This is an irrelevance now because City and FC play at the KC . The council offered Mr Allam Costello for his Sporting Village, not for the relocation of the KC. Mr Allam wants to provide sporting facilities of an ice rink, swimming pool and squash courts to the city as a gift. The council have offered him Costello as a venue. The traffic issue for a Sporting Village would be far far less than for a stadium housing both professional clubs, surely that's obvious?

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:03 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Why not? You've done nothing but chant the same mantra from the moment you joined the discussion

If you're so stupid that, no matter what response you get you keep asking the same question, it doesn't surprise me you're bored of reading the same answer.

Re: O/T - Allam the terrible ! : Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:06 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

You've still not answered my question. I assume you are saying that 10+ years ago, there were planning (mainly traffic) reasons why a stadium for all the city's professional clubs couldn't be sited at Costello. This is an irrelevance now because City and FC play at the KC . The council offered Mr Allam Costello for his Sporting Village, not for the relocation of the KC. Mr Allam wants to provide sporting facilities of an ice rink, swimming pool and squash courts to the city as a gift. The council have offered him Costello as a venue. The traffic issue for a Sporting Village would be far far less than for a stadium housing both professional clubs, surely that's obvious?

If only it was that simple.

Out of interest, did the Council offer Costello or did Cllr Geraghty do it? What's the value of the Costello site?