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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:53 am  
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Cas would be stupid to get rid of Owen , Shenton and Westerman . Thier the type of players Cas should be building a team around .



If your out of contract then its out of the clubs hands if the player wants to leave, you can only offer what you can afford and if that isn't enough then :WAVE:
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:59 am  
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If your out of contract then its out of the clubs hands if the player wants to leave, you can only offer what you can afford and if that isn't enough then :WAVE:

Yes , I'm fully aware of the consequences of not offering enough ££ . I've , We've seen it all to often at Hull over the years.
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:07 am  
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Yes , I'm fully aware of the consequences of not offering enough ££ . I've , We've seen it all to often at Hull over the years.



Probably was stating the obvious to be fair wasn't i.

Would make a change for us not to lose players over money but i'm sure somehting will crop up further down the line.
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The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:21 am  
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Yes , I'm fully aware of the consequences of not offering enough ££ . I've , We've seen it all to often at Hull over the years.


no we haven't.
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:32 am  
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i can't decided which way to go tbh. We could lose Manu, tickle, dowes, radford and cusack and bring in lms, westerman, shenton, owen and murphy.

Agars got some big decisions.


If I had to guess what Hull will try to do this'd be it:

Cusack retires. He needs to be replaced and you don't want to compound the 'problem' by releasing Dowes and Radford, so they stay. You need a British replacement, somebody like LMS would be ideal, but you'll face stiff competition. Watts has been mentioned, but we'll be very keen to keep him - would you welcome Wheeldon back? Still young, club-trained, steady though not spectacular. If Moa steps up, you could maybe invest some time in developing a young prop - but he'd have to be good enough already that you weren't afraid to put him in if injuries struck.
Westerman only makes any sense if you lose a back-row forward. Luaki could be used as your 'new' prop, but I'm not sure he'd be all that effective compared to as an impact second row. Otherwise, at very least you'd need to release Washbrook, and convince an existing squad member to accept a potentially lesser role.
You are well stocked for centres, so chasing Shenton wouldn't be the best use of resources, IMO. You need a winger/full back more, especially if Calderwood goes. The quality you can afford and get will depend on whether he stays or not. If he goes, then Owen would be great, if not then you probably won't do much better than the kids you've got coming through.
Three of the players mentioned are Cas's bright young things, so unless they are having big problems, you'd think that releasing one would leave them with enough treasure to retain the others.
So actually not much change - a new prop and a wing/full back. Maybe a couple more, if players choose not to renew. I think the end of 2011, when I assume Long and Fitzgibbon will retire will be the time for the next proper overhaul.
Actually, much easier to do this for Hull's squad than Rovers, where I'd end up trying to keep too many out of sentiment, while convincing myself that other teams' best youngsters will want to come to play back up, for a pittance at HKR. :wink:
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:41 am  
I can't answer every point mild rover but!

King and raynor gone off cap.
Cusack gone..

Lms , westerman and murphy be same salary. At a guess.

Then shenton for yeaman.

Owen for calderwood.

And we keep manu and tickle.

Lifes good
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:52 am  
Sorry Hutchie you are right I missed Huddersfield off too. :D
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:57 am  
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I can't answer every point mild rover but!

King and raynor gone off cap.
Cusack gone..

Lms , westerman and murphy be same salary. At a guess.

Then shenton for yeaman.

Owen for calderwood.

And we keep manu and tickle.

Lifes good


That possibly works. Release Washbrook too (you won't have paid Raynor and King a full year's wage) and you'd be there, I reckon. Your academy means outs should normally outnumber ins. You've bitten the bullet on Yeaman and Calderwood, which is were these things usually fall down, IMO. Castleford would be poo next year, though I suppose they could offer Yeaman and Calderwood deals. The future looks bright for the Cashull Tigersharks!
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:12 am  
IMO washy should leave for his own career
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Re: Backs 2011 : Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:14 am  
Sheldon wrote:
I can't answer every point mild rover but!

King and raynor gone off cap.
Cusack gone..

Lms , westerman and murphy be same salary. At a guess.

Then shenton for yeaman.

Owen for calderwood.

And we keep manu and tickle.

Lifes good

You wouldn't need Westerman if Tickle and Fitz stay.
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